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Right and if you try you get bad things. The argument was syntax not any kind of constitutional principal that mattered to the actual structure or administration of the law. If you shoot it down on those grounds you get a hit to the legitimacy of SCOTUS.
Most of what SCOTUS does is nibble at the edges in narrowly tailored decisions that constrain overreach where they see it. You don't want them deciding health policy in a world where we already have conceded all of the salient constitutional points of a government mandated public insurance program.
Most of what SCOTUS does is nibble at the edges in narrowly tailored decisions that constrain overreach where they see it. You don't want them deciding health policy in a world where we already have conceded all of the salient constitutional points of a government mandated public insurance program.
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Oh, I don't know. For one thing, I would guess geriatric health-care would be excellent.JasonL wrote:Right and if you try you get bad things. The argument was syntax not any kind of constitutional principal that mattered to the actual structure or administration of the law. If you shoot it down on those grounds you get a hit to the legitimacy of SCOTUS.
Most of what SCOTUS does is nibble at the edges in narrowly tailored decisions that constrain overreach where they see it. You don't want them deciding health policy in a world where we already have conceded all of the salient constitutional points of a government mandated public insurance program.
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Because I figure dhex could use a laugh. I love how the writer assumes that the objection is due to the glorification of violence and criminality. Does he live in an alternate reality where conservatives hate country music?
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
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no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
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The economic troubles of the white working class are clearly caused by the messages in their music. How can a man who cheerfully sings along to "Take this job and shove it" be expected to impress his boss long enough to get a promotion and a raise? And the garbage their children listen to is even worse -- "I want to rock and roll all night and party every day?" I don't see any mention of buckling down, hitting the books and studying for your final exams there, do you?
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Can you believe they glorify a guy who shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die?
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What about the family values of a gentleman who has multiple exes in Texas?
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
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It's music for thugs. They don't even sing, really, just whine with a nasally twang over drums and banjos. And don't even get me started on the misogynistic messages in country-western so-called "songs." If ever you need a primer on the thuggish dysfunctionality of white culture, a basic perusal of country lyrics will provide it.
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Make that "white lower-class culture." Because it's not about race, see; it's about the benefits of education, hard work and a frugal lifestyle to pull oneself out of poverty and into comfortable middle-class prosperity, see. No culture can thrive unless it values these things, and these things are completely absent from country music. And that, rather than any systemic problems, explains the predicament of today's white working-class people. No wonder they voted for Trump.
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That's a hell of a blind spot re country music. But not surprising.Mo wrote: ↑24 Oct 2017, 13:44Because I figure dhex could use a laugh. I love how the writer assumes that the objection is due to the glorification of violence and criminality. Does he live in an alternate reality where conservatives hate country music?
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They deleted my comment to the guy talking about how rap is fine for white kids in the suburbs, but it's dangerous for kids in Compton. Apparently we're not supposed to ask what the kid in Appalachia takes from a song about a Reno-shooter.
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The expectation is that he desires to be self-employed, and that that is admirable.How can a man who cheerfully sings along to "Take this job and shove it" be expected to impress his boss long enough to get a promotion and a raise?
You guys are like the sarkeesians of music.
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Uh, we're making fun of the original article and not at all serious. Also, there's no indication Johnny Paycheck was going to be a small business owner.
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
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FWIW, I thought he was also making a joke.
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If he was, "You guys are like the sarkeesians of music," threw me off. The first sentence totally sounds like what someone would have responded to you with if they didn't delete your comment.
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
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i was insulted because i thought he was saying i was a quotidian surface commentator.
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If the shoe fits. I mean "Haha conservatives only criticize rap music because black people" ignores the entirety of 1980's moral panics over Twisted Sister, Ozzy, et al.
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Do you have any examples that aren't from 30 years ago?
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The pathology of an entire race and their position in America wasn't being pegged on hair metal. Just fake Satan stuff.
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Also, if you'll recall the PMRC was headed by Tipper Gore.
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I do kinda think holding up Johnny Paycheck and Public Enemy as comparable under the framework of conservatism is a bit not so compelling though, setting race entirely aside.
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The article uses Public Enemy as an example, I think mine are comparable.
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There comes a point in every person's life, Shem, when everything one knows about youth culture will be from 30 years in the past. It's happened to me; it'll happen to you. Whippersnapper.

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Yes, Public Enemy had a point.
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