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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Eric the .5b » 21 Apr 2019, 18:26

Didn't Al Gore get grief for mere donations from foreigners?
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Warren » 22 Apr 2019, 03:14

Eric the .5b wrote:
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Didn't Al Gore get grief for mere donations from foreigners?
He did. I don't remember if Giuliani weighed in on it though. He wasn't playing on the national stage then.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

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This 100% confirms my impression of the Trump Administration.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 03 May 2019, 15:41

Why was a Russian mobster living in Trump Tower? Why, after he had to leave the US, was he hanging out at Trump's Miss Universe show in Moscow? Why were his associates running a business out of Trump Tower around that same time?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... se-moscow/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wir ... d=46266198

I'm sure this is all completely innocent, and not at all the sort of thing that could be used as leverage.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 03 May 2019, 15:48

Also:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 03 May 2019, 18:24

Did Trump spit or swallow?



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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

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thoreau wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:41
Why was a Russian mobster living in Trump Tower? Why, after he had to leave the US, was he hanging out at Trump's Miss Universe show in Moscow? Why were his associates running a business out of Trump Tower around that same time?

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/20 ... se-moscow/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/story-fbi-wir ... d=46266198

I'm sure this is all completely innocent, and not at all the sort of thing that could be used as leverage.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by dead_elvis » 12 Jun 2019, 01:04

What a dishonest piece of shit. I'm sure you've seen the video of the Dean hearing but for Gaetz's youtube channel they edited the part where Dean pwnd him, and they didn't do it just by cutting it out, they spliced it so you think the laughter was to something other than Gaetz being a moron. Grrrr.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 12 Jun 2019, 20:24

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-excl ... d=63669304

His stance is that even though he didn't collude he totally would.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

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He's using those backwards R's ;)
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

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I liked Mac better in the season where he was fat.

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From the book of faces.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 26 Jul 2019, 11:03

Noted leftist Joe Scarborough thinks there's something unsavory about McConnell's response to Russian election hacking.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Kolohe » 27 Jul 2019, 21:32

Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Shem » 28 Jul 2019, 00:20

Think it's more he's trying to avoid forcing Trump to make himself even more suspicious by vetoing the bill. None of his constituents actually care, so he's safe, but there's probably enough marginal cases in PAMIWI make reelection more sketchy.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 28 Jul 2019, 01:39

Kolohe wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 21:32
Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
Agreed. Mitch simply knows what will benefit him and what won't. If Putin came to collect on the favor, he'd find Mitch damn near impossible to negotiate with. But in the meantime, Mitch is happy to turn a blind eye...not because he's actually Mikhail Mikhailovich McConnell, but because he's amoral and knows that a win is a win and long-term damage to the national good is irrelevant to his concerns.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Painboy » 29 Jul 2019, 19:30

thoreau wrote:
28 Jul 2019, 01:39
Kolohe wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 21:32
Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
Agreed. Mitch simply knows what will benefit him and what won't. If Putin came to collect on the favor, he'd find Mitch damn near impossible to negotiate with. But in the meantime, Mitch is happy to turn a blind eye...not because he's actually Mikhail Mikhailovich McConnell, but because he's amoral and knows that a win is a win and long-term damage to the national good is irrelevant to his concerns.
It's almost like he's a politician or something.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 29 Jul 2019, 19:32

My assertion is that he is doing something dangerously compromising. You are saying that he's doing it because he values his short-term self-interest over any other concern. These two statements are not in contradiction, but you seem to be suggesting that your statement in some way mitigates, allays, or refutes the concerns that I raise.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Pham Nuwen » 29 Jul 2019, 22:32

Painboy wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 19:30
thoreau wrote:
28 Jul 2019, 01:39
Kolohe wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 21:32
Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
Agreed. Mitch simply knows what will benefit him and what won't. If Putin came to collect on the favor, he'd find Mitch damn near impossible to negotiate with. But in the meantime, Mitch is happy to turn a blind eye...not because he's actually Mikhail Mikhailovich McConnell, but because he's amoral and knows that a win is a win and long-term damage to the national good is irrelevant to his concerns.
It's almost like he's a politician or something.
Yep. I'm just annoyed at the fact he derailed an election security bill, a sanctioned oligarch is investing $200 million in an aluminum plant in his district, and he cried McCarthyism.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Painboy » 30 Jul 2019, 11:17

thoreau wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 19:32
My assertion is that he is doing something dangerously compromising. You are saying that he's doing it because he values his short-term self-interest over any other concern. These two statements are not in contradiction, but you seem to be suggesting that your statement in some way mitigates, allays, or refutes the concerns that I raise.
I was actually just making a joke on the somewhat revelatory tone of the post. As if anyone reading these forums doesn't know exactly what kind of political reptile McConnell is.

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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Mo » 30 Jul 2019, 11:33

Painboy wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 19:30
thoreau wrote:
28 Jul 2019, 01:39
Kolohe wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 21:32
Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
Agreed. Mitch simply knows what will benefit him and what won't. If Putin came to collect on the favor, he'd find Mitch damn near impossible to negotiate with. But in the meantime, Mitch is happy to turn a blind eye...not because he's actually Mikhail Mikhailovich McConnell, but because he's amoral and knows that a win is a win and long-term damage to the national good is irrelevant to his concerns.
It's almost like he's a politician or something.
A dark part of me would thoroughly enjoy if his opponent in 2020 started hammering him with a dark xenophobic campaign hitting him for his shady Russian aluminum connections and his wife's shady China stuff.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Aresen » 30 Jul 2019, 11:35

Painboy wrote:
30 Jul 2019, 11:17
thoreau wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 19:32
My assertion is that he is doing something dangerously compromising. You are saying that he's doing it because he values his short-term self-interest over any other concern. These two statements are not in contradiction, but you seem to be suggesting that your statement in some way mitigates, allays, or refutes the concerns that I raise.
I was actually just making a joke on the somewhat revelatory tone of the post. As if anyone reading these forums doesn't know exactly what kind of political reptile McConnell is.
Real reptiles resent that sort of slur. Snakes kill rats, they don't protect them.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by thoreau » 30 Jul 2019, 11:47

Mo wrote:
30 Jul 2019, 11:33
A dark part of me would thoroughly enjoy if his opponent in 2020 started hammering him with a dark xenophobic campaign hitting him for his shady Russian aluminum connections and his wife's shady China stuff.
The Russkie's building aluminum tubes! And do I need to remind you what the fuck you can do with an aluminum tube? ALUMINUM!!!!

That don't scare you? Fine. I didn't want to say this. The motherfucker bought some yellow cake. In China. He went to China and he bought yellow cake.
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Pham Nuwen » 30 Jul 2019, 14:32

10/10 would watch chapelle again
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Re: Occam, Trump, and Russia

Post by Kolohe » 31 Jul 2019, 06:49

Mo wrote:
30 Jul 2019, 11:33
Painboy wrote:
29 Jul 2019, 19:30
thoreau wrote:
28 Jul 2019, 01:39
Kolohe wrote:
27 Jul 2019, 21:32
Cocaine Mitch isn't a Russian stooge. He just doesn't really care about democracy, and that attitude helps get Republicans elected, on the margin.
Agreed. Mitch simply knows what will benefit him and what won't. If Putin came to collect on the favor, he'd find Mitch damn near impossible to negotiate with. But in the meantime, Mitch is happy to turn a blind eye...not because he's actually Mikhail Mikhailovich McConnell, but because he's amoral and knows that a win is a win and long-term damage to the national good is irrelevant to his concerns.
It's almost like he's a politician or something.
A dark part of me would thoroughly enjoy if his opponent in 2020 started hammering him with a dark xenophobic campaign hitting him for his shady Russian aluminum connections and his wife's shady China stuff.

The problem with the Dems leaning into Xenophobia is that their hearts are just not in it. (And I'm not really kidding about that)
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