Fragments of an avotoast anthropology

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Post by JasonL » 06 Mar 2019, 11:24

Is the magnitude of parental assistance similar in post war America? Not help sometimes but help 20 hours a week? I don't know if that's similar to previous conditions or not. I don't know many people who were doing that.

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Post by Dangerman » 06 Mar 2019, 11:26

I'm terrified that my mom (70 years old) will have a serious health crisis before I can regain some kind of economic stability, because I have no idea how I would provide for her besides becoming a personal health aide and assisting her with obtaining social benefits. 'Shelling out for eldercare' is far far beyond what would actually be possible. I would have to move her closer to us (and she would lose her Romney-care which handles her medical expenses, and lose her Cambridge Housing which allows her to have a decent apartment), or I would have to move to the city, away from my support network, and deal with increased CoL in order to be personally present to help her with stuff. There's no way cash could bridge the gap alone.

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Post by thoreau » 06 Mar 2019, 11:48

Andrew wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 09:12
I'm pretty sure the extended family providing childcare isn't something the millenials are the first to do.
Yes, but that won't prevent some Bay Area startup from claiming that this is a uniquely Millennial concept that Disrupts old paradigms.

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Post by Mo » 06 Mar 2019, 12:42

Dangerman wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 11:26
I'm terrified that my mom (70 years old) will have a serious health crisis before I can regain some kind of economic stability, because I have no idea how I would provide for her besides becoming a personal health aide and assisting her with obtaining social benefits. 'Shelling out for eldercare' is far far beyond what would actually be possible. I would have to move her closer to us (and she would lose her Romney-care which handles her medical expenses, and lose her Cambridge Housing which allows her to have a decent apartment), or I would have to move to the city, away from my support network, and deal with increased CoL in order to be personally present to help her with stuff. There's no way cash could bridge the gap alone.
At 70, doesn't she have Medicare at least?
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Post by Dangerman » 06 Mar 2019, 12:48

Part of my terror is from ignorance. I'm sure she does have Medicare. I don't know what that means in terms of providing assistance to someone who becomes medically incapable of taking care of their day-to-day life because of loss of mobility or chronic conditions which could require higher levels of personal attention. I'm temperamentally inclined to believe that the safety net would not be enough to ensure a decent QoL if she became unable to function independently, but I don't actually know.

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Post by nicole » 06 Mar 2019, 17:13

JasonL wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 11:24
Is the magnitude of parental assistance similar in post war America? Not help sometimes but help 20 hours a week? I don't know if that's similar to previous conditions or not. I don't know many people who were doing that.
My grandmother watched us when my mom was working, which she did full-time until I was 5 and part time after that. PT meant my grandmother watched us all summer, until later when my mom worked in schools and was on a school schedule.

My understanding from reading fam policy stuff is that most people get childcare through family arrangements. Or at least that it’s very substantial as compared to daycare.
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Post by lunchstealer » 07 Mar 2019, 13:16

Ellie wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 11:07
Andrew wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 09:12
I'm pretty sure the extended family providing childcare isn't something the millenials are the first to do.
Right?
Yeah, regularly paying bills after 30 is weird. Regularly providing childcare, maybe some yard work or house cleaning or laundry or whatever... yeah no that's just family shit. It's more weird that it dropped off for a while, but never dropped off as much as anyone thinks they did.
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Post by Kolohe » 07 Mar 2019, 15:35

Wait, you stopped paying bills after you hit 30? How can I learn your secret?
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Post by Number 6 » 07 Mar 2019, 22:17

Kolohe wrote:
07 Mar 2019, 15:35
Wait, you stopped paying bills after you hit 30? How can I learn your secret?
Easy:
1) Turn thirty.
2) ??????
3) As a result of 2, be so rich that you have people for that.
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Post by lunchstealer » 08 Mar 2019, 12:26

Kolohe wrote:
07 Mar 2019, 15:35
Wait, you stopped paying bills after you hit 30? How can I learn your secret?
Credit card fraud ain't just a river in indochina, bro.
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Post by nicole » 29 Mar 2019, 19:35

"Fucking qualia." -Hugh Akston

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Post by Eric the .5b » 29 Mar 2019, 19:49

Surely Minecraft's 2009 release date is an even better fit, and it's a game people actually still play.
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Post by nicole » 29 Mar 2019, 19:54

I think part of the theory is that Fallout was the first of a certain genre/major breakthrough type thing.
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Post by JasonL » 29 Mar 2019, 20:55

That’s the worst kind of argument. Can’t even come up with a specious correlation?how about n=1 specious inflection point!

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Post by dhex » 29 Mar 2019, 21:01

Fallout 3 isn't even that good.
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Post by Warren » 30 Mar 2019, 10:55

I lol'd
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Post by nicole » 30 Mar 2019, 11:12

Warren wrote:
30 Mar 2019, 10:55
I lol'd
Some people just have no sense of humor, Warren.
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Post by dhex » 30 Mar 2019, 15:50

What was the sex cessation program around 97 ish?
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Post by Ellie » 30 Mar 2019, 15:58

Original Fallout, I suppose.
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Post by Kolohe » 30 Mar 2019, 20:20

dhex wrote:
30 Mar 2019, 15:50
What was the sex cessation program around 97 ish?
First generation of high speed internet & thus jpegs that took seconds instead of minutes to load. (Plus low fi RealMedia video).
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Post by Hugh Akston » 02 Apr 2019, 18:39

There's a lot of competition, but this may be the worst avotoast story I've ever seen:
In the past few weeks, I’ve heard from more than 100 Americans in their 20s and 30s who have begun to make similar changes in their drinking habits or who are contemplating ways to drink less. They have good company: Public-health efforts have helped drive down adolescent drinking rates, and American beverage manufacturers are beginning to hedge their bets on alcohol’s future. Media too have noticed that change is afoot. Recent months have seen a flurry of trend stories about Millennials—currently about 22 to 38 years old—getting sober.
There isn’t any great statistical evidence yet that young adults have altered their drinking habits on a grand scale. Changes in habit often lag behind changes in attitude, and national survey data on drinking habits reflect only small declines in heavy alcohol use. (For men, that’s drinking five alcoholic beverages in a short period of time five or more times in a month; for women, it’s four drinks under the same conditions.) From 2015 through 2017, the most recent year for which data are available, the rate of Millennials who reported that they had consumed any amount of alcohol in the preceding month remained pretty steady, at more than 60 percent.
Still, Starke has noticed some worrying attitudinal trends toward alcohol among her younger patients. Millennials who haven’t developed their generation’s signature coping skills often use alcohol heavily. Starke sees an alarming number of people under 35 with advanced liver disease or alcohol hepatitis. As attitudes may be moderating for many young adults, plenty of others are struggling: Nearly 90,000 people still die from alcohol-related causes in America every year, and that number hasn’t started to meaningfully improve.
The spaces in which alcohol is consumed will also have to change to meet shifting consumer demands. It’s become notably easier in recent years to find alcohol-free cocktails in urban bars across America. In New York City, a few young entrepreneurs are opening new kinds of spaces to serve the tastes of their peers. Listen Bar, a clubby pop-up that gives patrons a chance to party without alcohol, is crowdfunding to lease its first permanent location. In Brooklyn’s Greenpoint neighborhood, Getaway, a bar so dedicated to being booze-free that it won’t even use bitters that contain alcohol, is opening in a few weeks.
Dellea has also noticed a mix of excitement and relief among her bar’s prospective patrons. “An Instagram account put up a picture of the bar,” she says. “A lot of the comments were just people tagging their friends.”
tl;dr it's a trend story without a shred of evidence to support its thesis.
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Post by JasonL » 02 Apr 2019, 20:14

Signature coping mechanism?

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Post by Hugh Akston » 02 Apr 2019, 22:32

I assume that refers to your parents paying your rent or something.
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Post by Mo » 03 Apr 2019, 08:09

Isn't the trend just "Millennials are entering middle age and therefore are acting more like middle aged people instead of 20-somethings"?
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Post by Jasper » 03 Apr 2019, 08:18

Hugh Akston wrote:
02 Apr 2019, 22:32
I assume that refers to your parents paying your rent or something.
I thought it was organizing a protest rally to get a white dude fired.
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