Masculinity, so fragile

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Sandy » 20 Mar 2018, 11:12

I think a huge part of his appeal is simply being empathetic to the pain and insecurities of males. While "clean your room and show some self-discipline" is not a terrible message, you have an awful lot of wool to un-gather to get it. I am guessing that popular highbrow and educational culture doesn't offer any sympathy, and that's his appeal.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Eric the .5b » 20 Mar 2018, 13:00

nicole wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 07:53
The defender of free speech:



(The column was good but not as good as it could have been.)
Weirdly, that links to another tweet entirely.
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(I guess he romances Charles very aggressively and hurtfully?)

I wonder if embedding is having a glitch.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by nicole » 20 Mar 2018, 13:07

Eric the .5b wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 13:00
nicole wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 07:53
The defender of free speech:



(The column was good but not as good as it could have been.)
Weirdly, that links to another tweet entirely.
You arrogant, racist son of a bitch Pankaj Mishra: How dare you accuse me of "harmlessly romancing the noble savage." That's how you refer to my friend Charles Joseph ((link: http://charlesjoseph.ca/) charlesjoseph.ca), who I've worked with for 15 years? "
(I guess he romances Charles very aggressively and hurtfully?)

I wonder if embedding is having a glitch.
Yeah, sorry for my explanation, that's how it was supposed to be. He quote-tweeted himself and it was his original tweet that linked to the column. Quote-tweets don't show up at the gryll you always have to click through.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Eric the .5b » 20 Mar 2018, 13:12

So just Twitter glitch as normal.

Wait, is this yutz really "hailed as the West’s most influential public intellectual" by anyone but a drooling group of fans? I thought Ann Coulter was more of a figure than that...
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Kolohe » 20 Mar 2018, 14:15

It's not a twitter glitch, rocket surgeon just doesn't know how to thread tweets,

(and isn't promising violence in the subjunctive mood kinda fascist?)
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Jennifer » 20 Mar 2018, 14:57

Yet another example of how wise male intellectuals like Jordan Peterson are always at a disadvantage when having intellectual confrontations over Twitter, when the option of settling the argument with fists is off the table.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 20 Mar 2018, 17:58

dhex wrote:
20 Mar 2018, 08:09
that piece is rather overwrought (while critiquing ideas that are themselves largely overwrought) but the glare of the spotlight is only gonna get brighter.

then again, his audience doesn't give a shit.

(also i like this idea that evola is bannon's spirit animal. i can't imagine how or why, mind you, but unlike 99% of america i've actually read evola.
I haven't read Evola, but if he said one or two things that sound kinda badass, I can imagine someone like Bannon liking him, no matter how badly he misunderstands. Kinda like the Nazis and Nietzsche.

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 20 Mar 2018, 18:05

I suspect that the University of Toronto is as embarrassed by Peterson as I am by the psychiatry professor at my alma mater who does research on past lives (who may still probably makes $$$ for the med school).

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Jennifer » 28 Mar 2018, 20:49

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 28 Mar 2018, 21:31

Jennifer wrote:
28 Mar 2018, 20:49
This is the future liberals want!

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I'm pretty okay with it myself!

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Kolohe » 29 Mar 2018, 09:16

It didn't work out for ancient Pompeii. Just sayin'.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Jasper » 29 Mar 2018, 10:39

Kolohe wrote:
29 Mar 2018, 09:16
It didn't work out for ancient Pompeii. Just sayin'.
Vesuvius is a male volcano that splooged all over Pompeii without their consent.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Mo » 01 Apr 2018, 22:42

A good, albeit long, critique of Peterson.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/ ... we-deserve
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by JasonL » 02 Apr 2018, 05:00

Oh man the pancake dragon. So, so terrible. Still, I think the writer is substantially underselling the perniciousness of identity politics and other projects of the left.

I see Peterson as a void filling presence for people who struggle to make their identity about anything other than masculinity as traditionally defined. That identity had cultural dominance that yes was perpetuated through myths. But kind of so what. Other people were shit on by that same set of myths and it isn’t at all clear that in totality one set of myths is Order. It just seems that way if the myths imbues you with magic testosteronium such that your actions independent of other moral considerations are bringing order to chaos. Bullies are just bullies. You need a spine because they exist and also to make hard decisions that may have some pain associated with them. Doesnt mean we need to mount a defense of Nelson Muntz

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by dhex » 02 Apr 2018, 14:40

Those illustrations
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Mo » 02 Apr 2018, 15:29

dhex wrote:
02 Apr 2018, 14:40
Those illustrations
I know! This one looks like one of those anti-Trump conspiracy theory images.

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And this one looks like something out of a DaVinci Code knockoff.

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his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Kolohe » 02 Apr 2018, 15:39

They're very Gorka dissertationy.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by dhex » 02 Apr 2018, 16:10

The unknown is apparently not being able to hire a high school junior with a cracked copy of illustrator and a weed hookup.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Tuco » 07 Apr 2018, 09:44

Where are the Thetans?

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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by dhex » 07 Apr 2018, 21:16

Next to the novelty vagina
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by tr0g » 08 Apr 2018, 12:58

dhex wrote:
07 Apr 2018, 21:16
Next to the novelty vagina
Novelty vagina seems like a tchotchke you'd buy at the independent womyn's bookstore.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by Andrew » 08 Apr 2018, 15:02

tr0g wrote:
08 Apr 2018, 12:58
dhex wrote:
07 Apr 2018, 21:16
Next to the novelty vagina
Novelty vagina seems like a tchotchke you'd buy at the independent womyn's bookstore.
Next to the detachable penis.
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by dhex » 08 Apr 2018, 15:26

also oroboros is chaos guys this dude may actually be white osho.

how does he feel about luxury cars?
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Re: Masculinity, so fragile

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Apr 2018, 00:19

Say what you will about Camille Paglia, at least she was entertaining while her fifteen minutes of public intellectual fame lasted.


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