The Enemy of My Enemy

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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by nicole » 23 Oct 2017, 14:43

Depressing thread:

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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Eric the .5b » 23 Oct 2017, 15:01

People just visibly, instantly glaze over when I mention Russia. Obviously, we need to talk more about Russia, that'll work!

The scary thing is that Trump's incompetence and incompatibility with his own party rein him in far, far more than Team Blue. They're not a "resistance", they're barely an opposition worth the name.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by dhex » 23 Oct 2017, 20:36

oh thank god the disney channel is here to let us know about the state of american politics. was stuart smalley busy pretending to be a senator?

and yeah i have about three ounces of sand in my urethra today.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by the innominate one » 23 Oct 2017, 21:40

nicole wrote:
23 Oct 2017, 14:43
Depressing thread:

Depressing because of his observations of Americans or depressing because he's so clearly all in on treason without adequate evidence?
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by nicole » 24 Oct 2017, 07:57

the innominate one wrote:
23 Oct 2017, 21:40
nicole wrote:
23 Oct 2017, 14:43
Depressing thread:

Depressing because of his observations of Americans or depressing because he's so clearly all in on treason without adequate evidence?
Mostly what Eric said.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by nicole » 31 Oct 2017, 12:18

Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Aresen » 31 Oct 2017, 13:03

nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
Since she works in Data Services, I would not be surprised if the majority in her department were cis white males. TBS, putting the preference in writing is pretty stupid.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by thoreau » 31 Oct 2017, 13:18

Nothing says "winning political strategy" like "Let's avoid the majority."
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Warren » 31 Oct 2017, 14:38

So now we have to throw "majority" onto the pile of once useful words that have lost all meaning?
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Sandy » 01 Nov 2017, 09:56

nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
So...straight Indian cisgender males, then.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Aresen » 01 Nov 2017, 12:26

Sandy wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 09:56
nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
So...straight Indian cisgender males, then.
Aren't Indians classed as caucasians? Wouldn't they be considered 'off-white'?
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Eric the .5b » 01 Nov 2017, 13:45

Aresen wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 12:26
Sandy wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 09:56
nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
So...straight Indian cisgender males, then.
Aren't Indians classed as caucasians? Wouldn't they be considered 'off-white'?
Ayrans? Oh, yeah, they hate those guys. :)
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Sandy » 01 Nov 2017, 16:01

Aresen wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 12:26
Sandy wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 09:56
nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
So...straight Indian cisgender males, then.
Aren't Indians classed as caucasians? Wouldn't they be considered 'off-white'?
...when it's convenient for representation, they, like East Asians, are considered PoC. But when there are too many of them and not enough of Black, American Indian, Latino, etc., they kinda...disappear.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Aresen » 01 Nov 2017, 16:16

Sandy wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 16:01
Aresen wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 12:26
Sandy wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 09:56
nicole wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 12:18
Work at the DNC!
I personally would prefer that you not forward to cisgender straight white males, since they're already in the majority.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/22939/exc ... t-hamilton
So...straight Indian cisgender males, then.
Aren't Indians classed as caucasians? Wouldn't they be considered 'off-white'?
...when it's convenient for representation, they, like East Asians, are considered PoC. But when there are too many of them and not enough of Black, American Indian, Latino, etc., they kinda...disappear.
'Off-white' it is. :mrgreen:
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by nicole » 16 Nov 2017, 16:49

Technically not Ds, but:
In my nine months as a member of the new Boston DSA, I was unable to discover the names of more than 5 of the 15 members on the group’s steering committee. When I pointed out that this was a violation of basic democratic norms, several people told me that the names were missing from the Local’s website because of fear of “doxing,” i.e., online publication of personal data. When I replied that perhaps people who are afraid of making their names public should not be in the leadership of the Local, the response was outrage. Apparently my suggestion would make it impossible for the “vulnerable” — women, trans people, and people of color were mentioned — to hold leadership positions. Would there have been a civil rights movement in the 50s and 60s or a feminist movement in the 60s and 70s if their leaders had insisted that their names be kept secret? Secrecy may be justified for underground organizations, like resistance cells working against a foreign occupation, but DSA holds public events and endorses candidates for political office. One person eventually sent me a member’s handbook that includes the names of those elected to the steering committee. It was supposed to have been emailed to members in April, but I never received it. I am told that a volunteer is now working on placing the names of steering committee members in a members-only section of the website. But after eight months of their one-year terms, the names are still missing.

I used the expression, “safe space socialism” in an electronic discussion on Slack of the missing names. At that point, one of the four moderators called a two hour break. And I was soon warned by another that I had been “aggressive” and offended “women and people of color.” Predictably, the moderator was a white guy. To be fair, however, he claimed that some people on the other side of the electronic dispute had also been warned about being aggressive. I hadn’t noticed. No one used profanity or made accusations against me, and I maintained the same decorum. There seems to be a worry in Boston DSA that debate is always on the edge of becoming rancorous, so great pains are taken to insist that members be “comradely” to one another. Maybe it’s not the college campus that is the major influence here, but rather the Internet culture in which so many young people are steeped, where disagreements can degenerate into “flame wars,” already an outdated expression. The truth is I had no idea what “doxing” means until a younger friend enlightened me.

I now know that, of the 15 members of the Local’s steering committee, only two are not millennials. It’s not that older people are not welcome in Boston DSA, it’s that the culture of the group is now foreign to those of us who hail from an older generation of socialist activists. I’ve raised the issue with some of the leadership, but there doesn’t seem to be any interest in addressing the problem or recruiting people from their parent’s generation. One member accused me of not understanding what the working class is because I have not been in the job market for quite a while, in other words, of being old. But I have been a vice-president in a union that includes young members, and I’ve published articles on the fate of recent college graduates in the job market.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by dhex » 16 Nov 2017, 17:55

Hahaha hahaha oh hashtag that resistance into the good nigh.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Dangerman » 21 Nov 2017, 12:29

Is it to time start the Socialist Americans for Democracy?

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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by JasonL » 21 Nov 2017, 12:42

We should all fear the night of the long hashtags.

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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by fyodor » 21 Nov 2017, 13:14

Well I think that if only people would be more comradely to each other the world would be a better place.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by nicole » 22 Jan 2018, 14:00

So, now that the shutdown is over, a note on the Democrats' current political priorities.

I read before the shutdown that there was a provision of the Durbin-Graham Senate deal that not only permanently regularized the status of Dreamers and put them on a path to citizenship, but it also put legalized their parents and put them on a path to citizenship as well. And it makes me pretty angry that that is what Ds apparently want to spend their political capital on. You won't find anyone more in favor of open borders than me, but I couldn't give less of a fuck about citizenship, and the idea that such a thing would be worth the political cost--going to the mat not only for the kids who had no control over immigrating illegally but also for their parents--just boggles my mind. Do you even theoretically want my vote? Because this isn't doing shit for me, it's going to cost everything you have, and the Republicans just gave me a tax cut.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Mo » 22 Jan 2018, 21:40

I don't see why Dems have gone along with the "chain migration" language as long as they have. Chain migration is typically siblings and adult children.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by thoreau » 22 Jan 2018, 22:23

My biggest disappointment about the quick end to the shutdown is that we never got an Onion article about the shenanigans that Diamond Joe Biden was up to while the G-Men were off-duty.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Pham Nuwen » 22 Jan 2018, 23:32

thoreau wrote:
22 Jan 2018, 22:23
My biggest disappointment about the quick end to the shutdown is that we never got an Onion article about the shenanigans that Diamond Joe Biden was up to while the G-Men were off-duty.
Goddammit! Another failure on cheeto in chief!
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by Sandy » 23 Jan 2018, 00:26

thoreau wrote:
22 Jan 2018, 22:23
My biggest disappointment about the quick end to the shutdown is that we never got an Onion article about the shenanigans that Diamond Joe Biden was up to while the G-Men were off-duty.
I hear Mike Pence looked at a woman's ankles.
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Re: The Enemy of My Enemy

Post by thoreau » 04 Mar 2018, 13:17

Doc Special K is all up in Trump's face over trade war:
Paul Krugman wrote:What would happen instead is that the Fed would raise rates sharply to head off inflationary pressures (especially because a 20 percent tariff would directly raise prices by something like 3 percent.) The rise in interest rates would have two big effects. First, it would squeeze interest-sensitive sectors: Trump’s friends in real estate would become very, very unhappy, as would anyone who is highly leveraged (hello, Jared.)

Second, it would drive up the dollar, inflicting severe harm on U.S. export sectors. Greetings, farmers of Iowa!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/opin ... e-war.html
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