If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Jennifer » 11 Aug 2018, 18:04

Highway wrote:
11 Aug 2018, 17:50
I know there are ridiculous bureaucracies, but why is this one so atrocious? Is it the opposite department or something? Do they just figure out how they can make themselves look as bad as possible?
I'm reminded of something Julian Sanchez wrote (tweeted) in response to some then-current ICE outrage du jour: "Who else would sign up at this point? We’ve finally succeeded at creating a government body so inherently monstrous that anyone who agrees to work for it is pretty much automatically garbage. So of course it ends up behaving horrifyingly; what else can you expect from a staff comprising exclusively shit humans? Or, if we craft something gentler NYT can quote: There’s a feedback loop. When an agency openly creates opportunities to enact strategic cruelty, it attracts the cruel."
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by thoreau » 11 Aug 2018, 18:49

I think the basic thing built into the system is that you should err on the side of not letting people in. It's probably not a written rule, but it's definitely a general understanding. Then toss in the election of Trump, and even in areas where his appointees haven't rewritten policy there's just a general understanding that saying "No" is what the boss REALLY wants you to do.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Jennifer » 24 Aug 2018, 19:51

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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by thoreau » 25 Aug 2018, 13:27

Fuck it. I'm gonna say it:

I want Trump's head on a pike.

EDIT: After a trial by a tribunal under the post-Resistance government, of course.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Aresen » 25 Aug 2018, 16:18

thoreau wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 13:27
Fuck it. I'm gonna say it:

I want Trump's head on a pike.

EDIT: After a trial by a tribunal under the post-Resistance government, of course.
I believe Kathy Griffin beat you to it.
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Post by lunchstealer » 25 Aug 2018, 17:59

My ideal solution would be for Trump to die in a helicopter accident in the 1980s.
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Post by thoreau » 25 Aug 2018, 22:36

lunchstealer wrote:My ideal solution would be for Trump to die in a helicopter accident in the 1980s.
I am told that there's a thing called Helicopter Twitter...
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Eric the .5b » 26 Aug 2018, 04:51

I dunno, that would probably end up with some helicopter pilot dying too,

I'm thinking hair gel ignition.
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Post by Aresen » 26 Aug 2018, 10:24

Eric the .5b wrote:
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I dunno, that would probably end up with some helicopter pilot dying too,

I'm thinking hair gel ignition.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Mo » 20 Sep 2018, 05:07

Despite Trump's best efforts, I still don't feel bad for Jeff Sessions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LZ2TG
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Kolohe » 20 Sep 2018, 09:37

Mo wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 05:07
Despite Trump's best efforts, I still don't feel bad for Jeff Sessions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LZ2TG
I've been thinking more and more that this is really just a PUA neg game. It worked on Lindsey Graham, after all.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Warren » 20 Sep 2018, 10:37

Kolohe wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 09:37
Mo wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 05:07
Despite Trump's best efforts, I still don't feel bad for Jeff Sessions.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LZ2TG
I've been thinking more and more that this is really just a PUA neg game. It worked on Lindsey Graham, after all.
That's his thing alright.
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Post by thoreau » 20 Sep 2018, 16:29

Walls are so great that Trump told the Spanish foreign minister to build one in the Sahara.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/politics ... index.html

Never mind that (1) the Sahara is big, (2) Spain doesn't control any of it, aside from a few coastal enclaves, and (3) it would never work.
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Post by JD » 20 Sep 2018, 17:04

thoreau wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 16:29
Walls are so great that Trump told the Spanish foreign minister to build one in the Sahara.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/20/politics ... index.html

Never mind that (1) the Sahara is big, (2) Spain doesn't control any of it, aside from a few coastal enclaves
Technically those would be called exclaves, or semi-enclaves, because they're outside of Spain proper but not completely enclosed by any foreign territory.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Mo » 01 Oct 2018, 05:37

Articles like this piss me off. It's great that people are open and supportive of local immigrants, but they don't give two shits about supporting politicians that would screw said immigrants over and are terrified of those policies being enforced.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a ... alifornia/
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Highway » 01 Oct 2018, 08:02

Mo wrote:
01 Oct 2018, 05:37
Articles like this piss me off. It's great that people are open and supportive of local immigrants, but they don't give two shits about supporting politicians that would screw said immigrants over and are terrified of those policies being enforced.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a ... alifornia/
Yeah, you have to wonder what abstract policy positions are so important that they will continue to vote for someone who actively pushes policies that would "Destroy our farms, destroy our lives." And not if it was changed. More just if the Eye of Sauron points in their direction.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Mo » 01 Oct 2018, 09:26

He fights and makes liberal tears.
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Highway » 01 Oct 2018, 11:16

Yeah, that's pretty much all I can come up with. But as usual, it seems a steep price to pay to "own the libs".
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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by dhex » 01 Oct 2018, 11:48

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Re: If We Build It, They'll Probably Still Come

Post by Jennifer » 01 Oct 2018, 17:26

Migrant Children Moved Under Cover of Darkness to a Texas Tent City
In shelters from Kansas to New York, hundreds of migrant children have been roused in the middle of the night in recent weeks and loaded onto buses with backpacks and snacks for a cross-country journey to their new home: a barren tent city on a sprawling patch of desert in West Texas.

Until now, most undocumented children being held by federal immigration authorities had been housed in private foster homes or shelters, sleeping two or three to a room. They received formal schooling and regular visits with legal representatives assigned to their immigration cases.

But in the rows of sand-colored tents in Tornillo, Tex., children in groups of 20, separated by gender, sleep lined up in bunks. There is no school: The children are given workbooks that they have no obligation to complete. Access to legal services is limited. ... Several shelter workers, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of being fired, described what they said has become standard practice for moving the children: In order to avoid escape attempts, the moves are carried out late at night because children will be less likely to try to run away. For the same reason, children are generally given little advance warning that they will be moved.....
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