The Abortion Thread

[lunchstealer]

They are obligated to report a crime if they find out about it. Therapists and other mental health providers typically tell you this at the beginning of treatment.

This is more like questions about whether patients have guns in the house, but I don't know of any requirements that those results be reported to the feds or to state governments.

Agree. I can see a bright line between crime and everything else.

And even then I think it's ongoing or potentially repeatable. Reporting of stuff in the distant past is maybe not required. At least this is what I've taken away from the disclaimer I got when I started therapy.

[nicole]

Right. That’s why I lie to doctors all the time. But not about my abortion history.

[Warren]

Right. That’s why I lie to doctors all the time. But not about my abortion history.

So just the child abuse and assault then?

[nicole]

Kevin Williamson thinks abortion should be treated as premeditated homicide, and women who get abortions should be hanged.

Calling for a quarter of all American women to be executed is not misogynistic, though. Of course not. It's proof of Williamson's deep and abiding respect for life.

https://rewire.news/article/2014/09/30/ ... abortions/

Williamson has been fired.



I found this whole episode bizarre, because to me, Williamson is basically known for thinking women who get abortions should be hanged.

[Highway]

What'd he write, one column?

[Jennifer]

Kevin Williamson thinks abortion should be treated as premeditated homicide, and women who get abortions should be hanged.

Calling for a quarter of all American women to be executed is not misogynistic, though. Of course not. It's proof of Williamson's deep and abiding respect for life.

https://rewire.news/article/2014/09/30/ ... abortions/

Williamson has been fired.



I found this whole episode bizarre, because to me, Williamson is basically known for thinking women who get abortions should be hanged.

One of the most facepalmy aspects for me was Atlanticans trying to defend Williamson on the grounds that hey, at least he didn't write a whole book calling for the state murder of women who had abortions; he "only" said this in a tweet or on someone's podcast or whatever. So, y'know, NBD amirite?

[Fin Fang Foom]

Williamson is a great writer, but beyond that, everything I have read from him is just trolling. I guess that makes him the perfect op-ed writer though.

[nicole]

Yeah that's kinda the thing isn't it

[Warren]

What'd he write, one column?

Yeah, but it was about libertarianism so

[Mo]

I think conservatives fail to recognize that by abandoning all media left of The Weekly Standard, places like The Atlantic are more reliant on their liberal readership and will lean that way. Instead, they will validate their bubble. Also, this is hilarious. It's obvious who hasn't read the WSJ in nearly a decade.

[nicole]

Inside the top-secret abortion underground

[Jennifer]

A hardcore forced-birther is also a white supremacist. Not surprising; not all forced-birthers are white supremacists, but pretty much all white supremacists I've seen are forced-birthers. Apparently, the notion "Let's deny human rights to people solely based on how they were born" applies to people both the wrong gender as well as the wrong color.

Anti-abortion groups are distancing themselves from a prominent writer, activist and thought leader in the movement who has leaned into white nationalism since Donald Trump’s election.

Kristen Walker Hatten, former vice president of the anti-abortion group New Wave Feminists and a contributor to The Dallas Morning News, has spoken at universities and events around the country about the need for mainstream feminism to embrace women who oppose abortion rights. She has written articles for Live Action News, the organization behind the heavily edited “sting” videos that inspired Republicans in Congress to investigate Planned Parenthood, and gained media attention in early 2017 when New Wave Feminists was ousted from a partnership with the Women’s March....

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kr ... mg00000004

[nicole]

I was just reading that. I thought it was interesting as a story about friends in the Trump era falling out because one of them becomes a white nationalist, since that's apparently a thing that happens now.

[Jennifer]

I was just reading that. I thought it was interesting as a story about friends in the Trump era falling out because one of them becomes a white nationalist, since that's apparently a thing that happens now.

The extra-facepalmy (though utterly unsurprising, if you consider it for more than a couple of nanoseconds) aspect is how very many of these white supremacists feel genuinely oppressed to find themselves losing friends and family members just because they openly advocate the oppression or outright murder of people based solely on their race or ethnicity.

Though, again, not surprising: if they were capable of empathy, they likely wouldn't be white supremacists in the first place.