Orange is the new President

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thoreau wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 18:54
Hugh Akston wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 18:51
It's especially suspicious that she's marrying her bosses bosses right hand man during Q1 performance review season.
Do you think she's over-performing at work? That can get you fired in the Trump administration.
I thought the only thing that could get you fired from the Trump Administration was disagreeing with Trump.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 19:37
thoreau wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 18:54
Hugh Akston wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 18:51
It's especially suspicious that she's marrying her bosses bosses right hand man during Q1 performance review season.
Do you think she's over-performing at work? That can get you fired in the Trump administration.
I thought the only thing that could get you fired from the Trump Administration was disagreeing with Trump.
Typically, overperforming in the Trump administration requires doing that.
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hahahahhahahahahahhahaha

Everyone's talking about Blago instead of Kerik

Now I get a push that he's pardoned fucking Michael Milken

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Kolohe wrote:
17 Feb 2020, 18:15
Miller’s going to have a longer honeymoon.
Also, Elvis was not at Hitler’s wedding.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... dding.html
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Don’t forget Eddie Debartalo, who was convicted of bribing a government official for a casino license. Seems like a fun precedent for Trump.
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Since Trump is in a pardoning mood
Supporters of Reality Winner, a National Security Agency whistleblower who leaked classified information about Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election, petitioned Donald Trump on Monday for her early release from prison.
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Quick, somebody convince him that if she's released, she can find and leak classified information about Ukraine's interference in the election! Something something Crowdstrike!

Anyway, today I heard a take on Blago's commutation that was basically, "This is breaking the rules! He was convicted in a fair trial!" Like, yeah, that's totally within the rules. He's not being declared retroactively innocent.
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Trump offered Julian Assange a pardon if he covered up evidence of Russian interference in US elections.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 45081.html

Speculation: "nobody serves more than two terms as president" was merely an unofficial rule until FDR; only afterwards did "two terms maximum" become law. I am wondering if Trump's awfulness will eventually lead to future rules governing how the president can use his pardoning powers.
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Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies. The only unorthodox thing Trump is doing is not waiting until just before the new guy's inauguration to do it.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
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Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:57
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
Off the top of my head GWB pardoning Scooter Libby and Clinton pardoning Roger.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 16:07
Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:57
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
Off the top of my head GWB pardoning Scooter Libby and Clinton pardoning Roger.
Point. Although even by that dismal standard, the allegations (if true) that Trump offered Assange a pardon for a quid pro quo takes things down to much lower levels--to the point where I am indeed wondering if in future we'll see legal limits on presidential pardons. Trump is practically the textbook example of "This is why we can't have nice things."
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Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 16:12
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 16:07
Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:57
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
Off the top of my head GWB pardoning Scooter Libby and Clinton pardoning Roger.
Point. Although even by that dismal standard, the allegations (if true) that Trump offered Assange a pardon for a quid pro quo takes things down to much lower levels--to the point where I am indeed wondering if in future we'll see legal limits on presidential pardons. Trump is practically the textbook example of "This is why we can't have nice things."
We'll see if Trump proves to be an outlier or a trailblazer, but you're not wrong.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 16:07
Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:57
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
Off the top of my head GWB pardoning Scooter Libby and Clinton pardoning Roger.
Trump pardoned Scooter, Bush commuted his sentence
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Jennifer wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:57
Hugh Akston wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 15:54
Eh, almost every president has pardoned his scumbag golfing buddies and political allies.
Examples?
Bill Clinton had a few untoward ones, too, particularly Marc Rich.

The difference with Trump is that he's not waiting until the last days of his presidency to get donors, allies, etc. out of prison or out from under convictions. He's just doing it as it happens because his supporters don't care how he looks.
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If Trump shot a nun in the middle of fifth avenue on publicly broadcast orders from Putin, then pardoned himself and the guy who handed him a gun and said "Here you go, Mr. President, a stolen gun for you to use to murder this woman," and the whole thing were broadcast on Fox News, Susan Collins would raise an eyebrow and express strong concern before voting to acquit.
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thoreau wrote:
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If Trump shot a nun in the middle of fifth avenue on publicly broadcast orders from Putin, then pardoned himself and the guy who handed him a gun and said "Here you go, Mr. President, a stolen gun for you to use to murder this woman," and the whole thing were broadcast on Fox News, Susan Collins would raise an eyebrow and express strong concern before voting to acquit.
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Warren wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 20:51
thoreau wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 19:54
If Trump shot a nun in the middle of fifth avenue on publicly broadcast orders from Putin, then pardoned himself and the guy who handed him a gun and said "Here you go, Mr. President, a stolen gun for you to use to murder this woman," and the whole thing were broadcast on Fox News, Susan Collins would raise an eyebrow and express strong concern before voting to acquit.
If Trump farted in a public school classroom, you'd spend three days whining about it.
And no matter what bad things Trump does, you'd sneer at anyone expressing concern because at least Trump's not Hillary.
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Stone gets 40 months.

Anyone interested in a pool on how long it takes Trump to give him a pardon?

FWIW, I think that's about right.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:41
Stone gets 40 months.

Anyone interested in a pool on how long it takes Trump to give him a pardon?

FWIW, I think that's about right.
3+ years in prison for resisting arrest obstruction, lying to investigators, and witness tampering? I just hope the DOJ has an iron maiden handy for a criminal who actually harmed someone.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:47
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 12:41
Stone gets 40 months.

Anyone interested in a pool on how long it takes Trump to give him a pardon?

FWIW, I think that's about right.
3+ years in prison for resisting arrest obstruction, lying to investigators, and witness tampering? I just hope the DOJ has an iron maiden handy for a criminal who actually harmed someone.
Witness tampering is a big deal. The rest of it, not so much.

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Huge shocker, Milkin was ceiling with corporate espionage while waiting for his pardon.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdz ... nt-lawsuit
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Mo wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:00
Huge shocker, Milkin was ceiling with corporate espionage while waiting for his pardon.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdz ... nt-lawsuit
Oh, quit whining. You behave like someone with female rather than male genitalia. At least Trump isn't Hillary.

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ffs
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Exactly, Jasper.
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