Orange is the new President

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 20 Sep 2019, 15:41

Hunter Biden did business in Ukraine and they had a super corrupt AG. Said AG was supposedly going to investigate his Ukrainian business partner. Joe Biden, along with a bunch of other world leaders like Christine Lagarde, publicly called on Ukraine to sack him.

The wagon circling on Trump is crazy. Someone on NR said it was suspicious that Hunter Biden made VP at a bank at 28, when anyone who has worked in financial services knows that VP levels are handed out like candy and it’s what they give newly minted MBAs.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 20 Sep 2019, 16:14

Pretty sure this is from Rudy’s next CNN appearance.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 23 Sep 2019, 17:09

"At $28 billion so far, the farm rescue is more than twice as expensive as the 2009 bailout of Detroit’s Big Three automakers, which cost taxpayers $12 billion."

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 23 Sep 2019, 17:15

Yeah, but those are rural folks, while the Big 3 auto makers are in Detroit, which is (*gasp*) urban. So it's fine to bail them out, but not, you know, city folks.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Shem » 23 Sep 2019, 17:24

Don't worry, I'm sure all those regulatory cuts that will make our products less competitive will manage to offset that money.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 23 Sep 2019, 17:26

That's horseshit.
Wikipedia wrote:As of early June 2009, the Bush and Obama administrations had invested $80.3 billion.
And that's only a partial accounting. For instance it excludes "cash for clunkers" which was ostensibly a climate change program with the "bonus" of spurring auto sales.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 23 Sep 2019, 17:33

Got a link, Warren? For what it's worth, back in the day Obama claimed the automakers had since paid back the majority of the money they got fro the government, whereas these farm bailouts are apparently intended to be grants rather than loans:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... loans-it-/
...Back in 2012, we looked at Obama’s campaign claim that GM and Chrysler "repaid their loans." We said it was Half True, partially because the government still owned stock in both automakers and it was too soon to say if taxpayers would recoup their investment.

But it’s two years later, and the Treasury has since sold off most of its holdings in both companies. So we decided to take a look at this issue again.

There are several circumstances that make this confusing and complicated. For starters, the bailout of the auto industry started in the waning weeks of President George W. Bush’s tenure. It continued during the early months of the Obama administration.

All told, the Treasury Department reported that the program cost taxpayers $79.7 billion, of which $70.4 billion was recovered. Under that estimate, the program lost about $9.3 billion....
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Post by Mo » 23 Sep 2019, 17:35

But that included buying assets under TARP. Everything the government later sold for a net negative $11B. Is the government getting a cut of the farmland? And cash for clunkers was $3B. So adding that to the $11B net loss still ends up at half the farm bailout.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 23 Sep 2019, 17:36

I'm not digging up links. The "They paid their loans" back is just so much propaganda. Only a small fraction of the greater Auto Bailout consisted of loans. The total if it could ever be accounted for was in the hundreds of billions.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 23 Sep 2019, 17:37

Warren wrote:I'm not digging up links. The "They paid their loans" back is just so much propaganda. Only a small fraction of the greater Auto Bailout consisted of loans. The total if it could ever be accounted for was in the hundreds of billions.
Source: Warren’s ass
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 23 Sep 2019, 17:38

whatever
believe what you want
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 23 Sep 2019, 17:39

The $80B in auto bailouts is a real number, but after repayment and selling of assets received ended up being -$11B.

https://www.marketplace.org/2018/11/13/ ... -worth-it/
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 23 Sep 2019, 17:40

Warren wrote:whatever
believe what you want
Show me a source that’s not your feelz
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by JasonL » 23 Sep 2019, 20:37

Can make the same argument for the banks. The hard part of the accounting is what is not seen. You fucked Ford who now knows how they should behave “to win”.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 23 Sep 2019, 20:38

Warren wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 17:36
I'm not digging up links. The "They paid their loans" back is just so much propaganda. Only a small fraction of the greater Auto Bailout consisted of loans. The total if it could ever be accounted for was in the hundreds of billions.
You can't "dig up a link" to the quote you personally put here?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 23 Sep 2019, 20:58

JasonL wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 20:37
Can make the same argument for the banks. The hard part of the accounting is what is not seen.
I mean. Wasn't there like a quarter trillion in the visible part of TARP?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by JasonL » 23 Sep 2019, 21:36

This is the normal what is seen accounting :

https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 24 Sep 2019, 09:52

JasonL wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 21:36
This is the normal what is seen accounting :

https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
One hundred megabucks profit on a six hundred megabuck investment! Let's do it again. We can't lose!
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 24 Sep 2019, 10:02

Warren wrote:
24 Sep 2019, 09:52
JasonL wrote:
23 Sep 2019, 21:36
This is the normal what is seen accounting :

https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/
One hundred megabucks profit on a six hundred megabuck investment! Let's do it again. We can't lose!
It's basically the LTCM playbook run at a much larger scale.
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Re: Orange is the new President

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 24 Sep 2019, 17:54

Even Fox News has judge Nap saying he committed crimes.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 24 Sep 2019, 18:20

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 27 Sep 2019, 10:25

I could put this in "Worthwhile YouTubez Finds", but I think it goes better here:
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Hugh Akston » 27 Sep 2019, 13:00

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by lunchstealer » 28 Sep 2019, 19:49

Hugh Akston wrote:
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And the immediate preceding sentence was the Ukrainian president saying, "...we are almost ready to buy more Javelins [anti-tank missiles that replaced the TOW] from United States for defense purposes."
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