Orange is the new President

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 20 Jul 2019, 18:47

Wixenstyx wrote:
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Hey, there are many ACTUAL Russians out there who could play that role. How dare you be so culturally insensitive?
Yakov Smirnov, for example!

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 20 Jul 2019, 21:50

thoreau wrote:
20 Jul 2019, 16:24
You actually have a point there, for once. If Trump had been given a cameo in Endgame he might have replaced half his Cabinet with Avengers.
There is something appropriate about Trump chasing six tacky bits of costume jewelry. Of course, who could he trade for the Soul Stone?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Shem » 20 Jul 2019, 22:58

Warren wrote:
20 Jul 2019, 15:55
If you pick a fight with him he'll call you names, but if you cozy up to him and tell him how great he is, he'll give you whatever you ask for.
Leaving aside the assumption that everyone is exactly as cynical in their dealings with others as you think they are, that's like saying "if you pick a fight with the people wanting to put a toxic waste dump in the playground, they'll take you to court, but if you let them do it, they'll give you gigantic checks." Yeah, you can get stuff, some of it good and useful, but he'll be President for at most, five more years. But the people you do business with are always going to remember you as "the guy who cozied up to bigot who called Mexicans rapists and left Puerto Rico to die." Kanye is mentally ill and the Kardashians are the ultimate "get what you can grab while you can" family, so they don't really care, but if you want to be an old successful celebrity, you kind of need to be careful about long-term damage to your image. Otherwise you wind up Kevin Sorbo.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Kolohe » 20 Jul 2019, 23:24

Are we sure that Trump was aware that someone named 'Rocky' was not the white guy this time?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 21 Jul 2019, 09:39

He's doubling down on his attacks against the non-white Democratic Congresswomen who dared criticize the treatment of prisoners in our concentration camps:


I don’t believe the four Congresswomen are capable of loving our Country. They should apologize to America (and Israel) for the horrible (hateful) things they have said. They are destroying the Democrat Party, but are weak & insecure people who can never destroy our great Nation!
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Post by Aresen » 21 Jul 2019, 19:39

From a purely strategic POV, I don't think Trump can back out right now. His base loves his 'tough guy' talk and if he back-tracked, they'd see him as weak.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 21 Jul 2019, 19:43

Yeah, but his base is a bunch of racist psychopaths. (However, since said psychopaths have gerrymandering on their side, the fact that the majority of voters reject them is irrelevant, from their perspective.)
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 22 Jul 2019, 19:17

Now Trump's using the tried-and-true "I know you are but what am I?" defense:


The “Squad” is a very Racist group of troublemakers who are young, inexperienced, and not very smart. They are pulling the once great Democrat Party far left, and were against humanitarian aid at the Border...And are now against ICE and Homeland Security. So bad for our Country!
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Taktix® » 22 Jul 2019, 21:08

Warren wrote:
20 Jul 2019, 15:55
Who was I listening to recently? They said something like:
Celebrities are foolishly disparaging Trump. Not just because they overplay their hand, but they are throwing away such opportunities. Look at Kim Kardashian, she understands how to be a celebrity. Trump likes being seen with celebrities, he likes being around them. If you pick a fight with him he'll call you names, but if you cozy up to him and tell him how great he is, he'll give you whatever you ask for. Kim got people pardoned by schmoozing Trump. She accomplished something. Something not all that trivial. If instead of blasting trump on Twitter, all these leftist celebrities just stroked his ego a little bit they could get the kids out of the camps for the asking.
This system you're describing, wherein people accomplish things merely by impressing the leader, and the leader is the one who unanimously decides things, and in which one's effectiveness in implementing policy is dependant upon the favor of and proximity to the leader; this system is called a monarchy...
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 22 Jul 2019, 21:29

Taktix® wrote:
22 Jul 2019, 21:08
Warren wrote:
20 Jul 2019, 15:55
Who was I listening to recently? They said something like:
Celebrities are foolishly disparaging Trump. Not just because they overplay their hand, but they are throwing away such opportunities. Look at Kim Kardashian, she understands how to be a celebrity. Trump likes being seen with celebrities, he likes being around them. If you pick a fight with him he'll call you names, but if you cozy up to him and tell him how great he is, he'll give you whatever you ask for. Kim got people pardoned by schmoozing Trump. She accomplished something. Something not all that trivial. If instead of blasting trump on Twitter, all these leftist celebrities just stroked his ego a little bit they could get the kids out of the camps for the asking.
This system you're describing, wherein people accomplish things merely by impressing the leader, and the leader is the one who unanimously decides things, and in which one's effectiveness in implementing policy is dependant upon the favor of and proximity to the leader; this system is called a monarchy...
But if we just have a Good Tsar President, everything will be OK.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by nicole » 25 Jul 2019, 10:55

Most libertarian blah blah

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 25 Jul 2019, 14:05

I have a new hero.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-s ... gle-2019-7

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Hugh Akston » 25 Jul 2019, 14:06

nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 25 Jul 2019, 14:08

Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I was wondering when libertarians became united against capital punishment.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Hugh Akston » 25 Jul 2019, 14:11

Warren wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I was wondering when libertarians became united against capital punishment.
Right around the time when we realized that it was cruel, ineffective as a deterrent, more expensive than the alternatives, and irredeemably racist.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 25 Jul 2019, 14:11

Hugh Akston wrote:
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I can only assume that DONDEROOOOOOOOO has.

Probably half the remaining H&R commentariat.

And some Reds trying to argue with libertarians.

Come to think of it, a friend who is a mix of Red and libertarian said I should give Trump a chance because he might really shrink the federal government.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 25 Jul 2019, 14:19

thoreau wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:11
Hugh Akston wrote:
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I can only assume that DONDEROOOOOOOOO has.

Probably half the remaining H&R commentariat.

And some Reds trying to argue with libertarians.

Come to think of it, a friend who is a mix of Red and libertarian said I should give Trump a chance because he might really shrink the federal government.
And don't forget all the blues who want to blame libertarians for Trump.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 25 Jul 2019, 14:25

Aresen wrote:
thoreau wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:11
Hugh Akston wrote:
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I can only assume that DONDEROOOOOOOOO has.

Probably half the remaining H&R commentariat.

And some Reds trying to argue with libertarians.

Come to think of it, a friend who is a mix of Red and libertarian said I should give Trump a chance because he might really shrink the federal government.
And don't forget all the blues who want to blame libertarians for Trump.
We are basement-dwelling, ineffectual losers who are responsible for everything that Team Red has ever done.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Warren » 25 Jul 2019, 14:39

thoreau wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:25
Aresen wrote:
thoreau wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:11
Hugh Akston wrote:
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I can only assume that DONDEROOOOOOOOO has.

Probably half the remaining H&R commentariat.

And some Reds trying to argue with libertarians.

Come to think of it, a friend who is a mix of Red and libertarian said I should give Trump a chance because he might really shrink the federal government.
And don't forget all the blues who want to blame libertarians for Trump.
We are basement-dwelling, ineffectual losers who are responsible for everything that Team Red has ever done.
And also responsible for everything Team Blue has ever done
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Shem » 25 Jul 2019, 14:46

Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
Yes.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Painboy » 25 Jul 2019, 14:56

Warren wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I was wondering when libertarians became united against capital punishment.
Agreed. I don't support capital punishment but I never saw it as a something specifically prohibited in an ideal libertarian society.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by lunchstealer » 25 Jul 2019, 15:09

Painboy wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:56
Warren wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:08
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
I was wondering when libertarians became united against capital punishment.
Agreed. I don't support capital punishment but I never saw it as a something specifically prohibited in an ideal libertarian society.
Racism isn't specifically prohibited in an ideal libertarian society by some definitions, but it's still pretty unlibertarian, at least if we take seriously most of the tenets upon which libertarianism is based.

It seems like we should be able to say that the gov't's track record on the criminal justice system is so bad that it is unlibertarian to promote it as a general rule. You can say "Free fries if Bundy dies!" but still not expand government power to do so.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 25 Jul 2019, 15:19

Is it unlibertarian to carry out capital punishment on Telemarketers and Internet Scammers, if it is done privately?

I'm asking for a friend.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Hugh Akston » 25 Jul 2019, 15:53

Shem wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:46
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:06
nicole wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 10:55
Most libertarian blah blah

Sorry, has anyone anywhere referred to Bill Barr or Trump generally as the most libertarian anything?
Yes.
How about anybody with an iota of libertarian credibility?
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by lunchstealer » 25 Jul 2019, 15:57

Aresen wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 15:19
Is it unlibertarian to carry out capital punishment on Telemarketers and Internet Scammers, if it is done privately?

I'm asking for a friend.
That's defense of self or other. It's what the 2nd Amendment is there for.
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