Orange is the new President
Re: Orange is the new President
At the very least destroying evidence of a crime shouldn’t get you promoted to CIA director. Political will or no.
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The political firestorm that would follow, because there would be a significant number of office holders that would be considered, fairly or unfairly, co-conspirators, make it such that any administration would have to be willing to burn their political capital on it. One has to take into account reality, rather than purely philosophical considerations. A policy of no sitting president can be indicted for crimes leads to, no president will be indicted for crimes.D.A. Ridgely wrote:I largely agree, but the weight of tradition, let alone a prudent regard for the notion that what goes around comes around, isn't nearly as reliable as it used to be. Regardless, that's entirely separate from whether sitting presidents should be temporarily exempt from having to face criminal charges because the key word there all along has been "temporarily." No one has ever, as far as I know, taken it as a legal position that presidents ipso fact get a lifetime pass for whatever crimes they may have committed. That something doesn't happen is one thing; that it couldn't happen as a matter of law is quite another.Mo wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:51The tradition of not prosecuting political opponents and “looking forward, not backwards” does the heavy lifting there. If the next administration tried to try Trump or his family for crimes, there would be a full court press by Rs on how this is what “banana republics” do. What ever happened to those CIA agents that committed torture? Or the senior CIA official that destroyed evidence related to said torture?D.A. Ridgely wrote:I have tried to explain to any number of my liberal friends that, whatever the legal merits may be, the Justice Dept position that a sitting president cannot be the subject of a criminal prosecution has nothing to do with impeachment and nothing to do with whether he could be prosecuted the day he left office. Crickets. They are all certain Kavanaugh's entire purpose is to keep Trump from impeachment, prosecution, prison, whatever. It's insane.
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
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Nothing ever happens until it does. Hotter political firestorms are just part of the political climate change. It's one thing, again, to say that what one does in office and pursuant to that office won't ever end up being prosecuted; quite another to say that, for example, a continuing conspiracy to evade taxes long before, during and after holding office would never be prosecuted. Also, U.S. Attorneys' offices have considerable autonomy and, short of a blanket pardon, it's not clear the DoJ or even POTUS could stop a prosecution. Then there are state laws. *shrug*Mo wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 18:09The political firestorm that would follow, because there would be a significant number of office holders that would be considered, fairly or unfairly, co-conspirators, make it such that any administration would have to be willing to burn their political capital on it. One has to take into account reality, rather than purely philosophical considerations. A policy of no sitting president can be indicted for crimes leads to, no president will be indicted for crimes.D.A. Ridgely wrote:I largely agree, but the weight of tradition, let alone a prudent regard for the notion that what goes around comes around, isn't nearly as reliable as it used to be. Regardless, that's entirely separate from whether sitting presidents should be temporarily exempt from having to face criminal charges because the key word there all along has been "temporarily." No one has ever, as far as I know, taken it as a legal position that presidents ipso fact get a lifetime pass for whatever crimes they may have committed. That something doesn't happen is one thing; that it couldn't happen as a matter of law is quite another.Mo wrote: ↑28 Sep 2018, 17:51The tradition of not prosecuting political opponents and “looking forward, not backwards” does the heavy lifting there. If the next administration tried to try Trump or his family for crimes, there would be a full court press by Rs on how this is what “banana republics” do. What ever happened to those CIA agents that committed torture? Or the senior CIA official that destroyed evidence related to said torture?D.A. Ridgely wrote:I have tried to explain to any number of my liberal friends that, whatever the legal merits may be, the Justice Dept position that a sitting president cannot be the subject of a criminal prosecution has nothing to do with impeachment and nothing to do with whether he could be prosecuted the day he left office. Crickets. They are all certain Kavanaugh's entire purpose is to keep Trump from impeachment, prosecution, prison, whatever. It's insane.
Re: Orange is the new President
Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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Re: Orange is the new President
I am sure he would rather fire them himself.
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I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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I'm talking about eviction when he loses his real estate empire.
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Re: Orange is the new President
Trump did urge police officers to mistreat suspects and "accidentally" bonk their heads against car roofs when putting them in the backs of police cars. Surely it would be unjust to suggest any cop tasked with Trump should be held to a higher standard than those assigned less illustrious suspects.
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Murder of residents of Yemen.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 16:38And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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"Removing toddlers from their parents, locking said toddlers in cages and, in many cases, making the poor kids go weeks or even months without ever being bathed" might also qualify. Though perhaps these are only bad things when done by younger men in good physical shape; I don't know what the BMI/personal accountability cutoff is.Kolohe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 17:58Murder of residents of Yemen.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 16:38And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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Beat me to it.Kolohe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 17:58Murder of residents of Yemen.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 16:38And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo
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Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex
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To be clear, I was talking about the scenario where his business empire is dismantled, he loses most of his assets, Trump Tower has to be sold, the new owner evicts him, and he refuses to leave.
I assume that it's still libertarian for a property owner to call armed men to remove a trespasser, yes?
I assume that it's still libertarian for a property owner to call armed men to remove a trespasser, yes?
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You guys just aren't paying attention. Ordering the deaths of people he's never met on the other side of the planet who pose no threat to anyone in the United States is one of the many legitimate things Donald Trump has done since taking office.Aresen wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 18:06Beat me to it.Kolohe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 17:58Murder of residents of Yemen.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 16:38And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
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Ok. If we can't manhandle him, can we drone him?Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 18:51You guys just aren't paying attention. Ordering the deaths of people he's never met on the other side of the planet who pose no threat to anyone in the United States is one of the many legitimate things Donald Trump has done since taking office.Aresen wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 18:06Beat me to it.Kolohe wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 17:58Murder of residents of Yemen.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 16:38And what violent crimes has he been accused of that would justify physically restraining and manhandling a septuagenarian in poor physical shape?thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 01:28I want footage of the Sheriff's deputies dragging him out of Trump Tower. I will watch it on a loop and masturbate until my body is drained of all fluid.Shem wrote:Donald Trump the guy probably won't ever face charges, but I"m pretty sure the Trump Organization can look forward to being gutted by the NYAG over the next 3-5 years, which actually might be worse for him.
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo
Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one
Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex
Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one
Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex
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I agree with Hugh. The Yemen stuff is pretty normal. I would, however, go with Jennifer, that the family separation stuff is both aberrant and horrific.
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
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WTF, Mo? Are we so acclimatized to war crimes that we describe them as 'normal'?
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo
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Re: Orange is the new President
Haven't you been following U.S. history at all?
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A point to the Texan.
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo
Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one
Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex
Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one
Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex
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Oh, I'm definitely team you.thoreau wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 18:43To be clear, I was talking about the scenario where his business empire is dismantled, he loses most of his assets, Trump Tower has to be sold, the new owner evicts him, and he refuses to leave.
I assume that it's still libertarian for a property owner to call armed men to remove a trespasser, yes?
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Re: Orange is the new President
Give it a few years. Once official procedures are established and it becomes commonplace, it will cease to be immoral.
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Re: Orange is the new President
It's Saturday night and I'm looking at the Internet. I did not need another reason to be depressed, Hugh.Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 22:18Give it a few years. Once official procedures are established and it becomes commonplace, it will cease to be immoral.

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Re: Orange is the new President
Booooo! Everyone boooo! this man!Hugh Akston wrote: ↑29 Sep 2018, 22:18Give it a few years. Once official procedures are established and it becomes commonplace, it will cease to be immoral.
Goddamn libertarian message board. Hugh Akston
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Just a reminder that new tariffs go to 10% beginning 10/1/18, and 25% 1/1/19.
Steve reminds us that shipping is also affected because manufacturers are rushing to get product out of China, and this is eating up all available outbound cargo space and driving up prices.
Steve reminds us that shipping is also affected because manufacturers are rushing to get product out of China, and this is eating up all available outbound cargo space and driving up prices.
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