I claim that Trump almost certainly knew the following:Eric the .5b wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 01:14Bluntly, I'm looking back through the last several pages, and I'm lost as to what claim you're trying to advance and what position you actually think you're arguing against.
1) That people inside his campaign had ties to the Russian government (e.g. Manafort) or were being cultivated by the Russian government (e.g. everyone who's been caught lying about their contacts with the Russian government).
2) That the Russian government was digging for information to help his campaign (e.g. Natalia Veselnitskaya offered dirt on Clinton and her circle, people close to Trump displayed advance knowledge of emails being leaked in October) and that some of this involved illegal hacking.
3) That people in his campaign were trying to coordinate activity with the Russian government (e.g. Donnie Jr., Jared Kushner, and Manafort sitting down with Veselnitskaya).
The position I'm arguing against: That it's absurd to think Trump knew any of this.
As to whether any of this matters: Again, he's now the guy with ultimate responsibility for the security apparatus. If he were not the elected head of government he would, at a bare minimum, be ineligible for a security clearance because of how many people in his circle are tied to the Russian government. I'll demur on whether any of his actions would constitute criminal offenses, but they certainly rise to impeachable offenses from my recollection of the Founders' concerns in the Federalist Papers. They were quite concerned about the US government being compromised by foreign powers, and Trump's ties to Russia help explain why he'd spill secrets to Sergei Lavrov and brag about firing Comey to shut down the inquiry.
Look at who Russia used to deliver a policy proposal to Trump last year: Felix Sater and Michael Cohen
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/p ... ussia.html
Sater and Cohen are both tied to dirty Russian businessmen, and they've both been involved in shady business with Trump. When a foreign government decides to send a message via two men who know secrets that could hurt you, the messengers are part of the message.
I mean, suppose that a politician just HAPPENED to be a Sicilian-American businessman with a thuggish personality, a circle of associates balls-deep in criminal activity, and then two dirty business associates of his were used to deliver a policy proposal that would be favorable to the interests of a foreign government that his criminal associates had done business with. Can anyone tell me that wouldn't be grounds for impeachment? Would anyone look at this and say "Now, now, he's clearly just a narcissist with no clue, there's NO WAY he's compromised!"?