Orange is the new President

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Pham Nuwen » 28 Apr 2018, 22:29

Am I supposed to give credit over Korea? I need help here.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Aresen » 28 Apr 2018, 22:36

Pham Nuwen wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 22:29
Am I supposed to give credit over Korea? I need help here.
Until someone tells Trump about the US - Korea trade balance, yes.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Pham Nuwen » 28 Apr 2018, 22:38

So having a mentally unfit commander in chief has its terms for world peace. Huh.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Pham Nuwen » 28 Apr 2018, 22:39

That is a really odd autocorrect there. Further huh.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by lunchstealer » 28 Apr 2018, 23:02

I think cautiously one could possibly say it could've been an upside to his crazed bullshit. Reagan got START which was way better than SALT. What bothers me is that Reagan played the cowboy but was far more wonkish and serious than he let on, and had a really strong foreign policy team. I think Trump is even less wonkish and serious than he lets on and his foreign policy team are a pack of psychos with one or two decent people who are constantly marginalized. When Bolton and Pompeo are your best guys... dag. The only member of his cabinet that I trust is Mattis and even then I'm not sure.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by lunchstealer » 28 Apr 2018, 23:10

Another thing that concerns me is that they've now got a working H-bomb. They don't NEED to keep testing in the immediate future, so long as they feel confident that that bomb is deployable. Also there's some evidence that the H-bomb test was stronger than their test site could handle and that they would basically have to build a whole new underground test site before they could resume testing anyway.

So why not declare victory and then show how magnanimous you are by appearing conciliatory?
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Post by Shem » 28 Apr 2018, 23:24

They knocked off testing because they overused their testbed and killed a couple dozen people. Now it's broken. That's why. They've done this exact thing a half dozen times in my lifetime; it always ends the same way; right back where it started. If we actually get something concrete, like a peace treaty, we can talk. Until then, all we have is the exact same round of talks anyone could have gotten if they were dumb enough to scare the Japanese by saying nice things about Kim Jong-un.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 28 Apr 2018, 23:30

Also, they pretty much have the nukes that they want. They'll still test ballistic missiles. They won't give up their current arsenal. So at best we have a worse version of an Iran deal, except we made it after they got nukes. So, half a cheer, tops.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 28 Apr 2018, 23:35

lunchstealer wrote:
28 Apr 2018, 23:10
Another thing that concerns me is that they've now got a working H-bomb. They don't NEED to keep testing in the immediate future, so long as they feel confident that that bomb is deployable. Also there's some evidence that the H-bomb test was stronger than their test site could handle and that they would basically have to build a whole new underground test site before they could resume testing anyway.
From what I read, the entire freaking mountain they tested under collapsed upon itself.

IF this treaty works out then hooray, but I'll withhold judgment until I actually see things getting better in North Korea.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 29 Apr 2018, 01:03

If Trump's erratic and unpredictable bellicosity was a factor in what turns out to be the end of the Korean War and a rapprochement that improves the lives of North Koreans, then I tip my hat to the man. After all, bear in mind that at this point Trump couldn't possible deserve the Nobel Peace Prize less than Barrack Obama did.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Jennifer » 02 May 2018, 13:38

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Shem » 02 May 2018, 23:03

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by nicole » 04 May 2018, 15:00

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by thoreau » 07 May 2018, 22:47

Is there a glitch in the Matrix?Image
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Kolohe » 08 May 2018, 08:46

Someone's been misusing his sling ring.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Dangerman » 08 May 2018, 08:53

I had a brief moment where I read 'Ivan Stang' and I hoped we were getting some slack.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 08 May 2018, 12:46

Wow, how bad is Trump? Somehow a majority of Arab youth thought of the U.S. as an ally in 2016; now they don't.

https://www.axios.com/arab-youth-see-us ... SAMedition

Soft power is a helluva drug, I guess. If blue jeans go out of style due to Trump, that'll be an "achievement."

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 08 May 2018, 15:23

So, will this get Trump invited to McCain's funeral?

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Eric the .5b » 08 May 2018, 19:27

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
08 May 2018, 12:46
Wow, how bad is Trump? Somehow a majority of Arab youth thought of the U.S. as an ally in 2016; now they don't.
I can't take that first claim seriously. I cheerfully believe Trump has made the situation worse, but no, just no.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Painboy » 08 May 2018, 20:05

Didn't Trump officially recognize Israel or something? That might have something to do with current opinions.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Tuco » 09 May 2018, 06:28

Dangerman wrote:
08 May 2018, 08:53
I had a brief moment where I read 'Ivan Stang' and I hoped we were getting some slack.
The rest of the world may see him as orange, but we know Trump's really fucking pink.

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Dangerman » 09 May 2018, 10:12

Is Trump Erisian or Illuminated?

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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Mo » 09 May 2018, 11:39

The Saudis bought the Plaza hotel for 67% of the price that Trump bought it for in 1988. And that's only taking into account inflation and not 3 decades of property appreciation in Manhattan. And this guy is going to negotiate nuke deals with Iran and Korea? It's really hard to buy Manhattan prime real estate in the 80s that would sell for a loss today.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by Kolohe » 09 May 2018, 12:50

Eh, only if you had the liquidty to get through the early 90s recession. The Japanese famously had to offload a lot of NYC real estate aquisitions in the 90s at fire sale prices.
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Re: Orange is the new President

Post by nicole » 09 May 2018, 13:03

I fucking love this story

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