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Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 12:18
by Kolohe
Mo wrote:
11 Jan 2018, 22:47
Speaking of shitholes.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/trumps-ma ... beXYWBre3x
Conspiracy theory - Mike Pence is paying off the food inspectors to get a grade just good enough to keep M-a-L operational.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 12:53
by Painboy
Mo wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 11:18
Painboy wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 10:57
From the article:
“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?,” Trump reportedly said — referring to African countries, El Salvador, and Haiti.
Uhm....
What's the confusion? The Oxford comma saves the day.
I see that now. Comma or not it doesn't read very well. Something better would be like "referring to El Salvador, Haiti, and African countries."

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 13:03
by nicole
The other reading wouldn’t have any commas: “African countries El Salvador and Haiti”

Everyone ducks that up though.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 13:13
by thoreau
OK, we've done commas, now abortion and condiments.

;)

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 14:16
by lunchstealer
thoreau wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 13:13
OK, we've done commas, now abortion and condiments.

;)
Condiments are in the cole slaw thread.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 14:50
by Pham Nuwen
Are we back on condiments again?

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 14:56
by thoreau
Pham Nuwen wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 14:50
Are we back on condiments again?
We're balls deep in them. Now and always.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 15:07
by Mo
Image

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 15:21
by Ellie
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 15:54
by Jennifer

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 16:07
by thoreau
Compromise: We won't take anyone from shitholes, but we will take people from hellholes.


Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 17:50
by Aresen
Kolohe wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 12:18
Mo wrote:
11 Jan 2018, 22:47
Speaking of shitholes.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/trumps-ma ... beXYWBre3x
Conspiracy theory - Mike Pence is paying off the food inspectors to get a grade just good enough to keep M-a-L operational.
The thought that Trump might get food poisoning at his own resort made my day.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 17:56
by thoreau
The Market should decide on health and safety standards in the Mar-a-Lago kitchen.

Unless foreign leaders are visiting.

But for Trump's personal dinners, let The Market decide. Not the county health inspector, not the Secret Service, just The Free Market. If Trump recently stiffed the kitchen staff, then The Free Market should decide what it means for the poultry to be perfectly cooked.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 21:34
by Mo
So if we were to rank presidential scandals 1 through 1000 for each president, is "Trump banging a porn star 3 months after his son was born" at "Obama wearing a tan suit" or "Obama putting his feet up on the desk"?

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 21:43
by Sandy
Historically speaking or by contemporary standards?

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 21:51
by Aresen
Mo wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 21:34
So if we were to rank presidential scandals 1 through 1000 for each president, is "Trump banging a porn star 3 months after his son was born" at "Obama wearing a tan suit" or "Obama putting his feet up on the desk"?
I think it is more on the level of the David Cameron 'Pig-gate' scandal.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 22:07
by Mo
I mean ordinal. Like this is Trump's 70th worst scandal or some shit like that. What's the equivalent 70th worst scandal for Obama? Going on ESPN to fill out a March Madness bracket?

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 22:25
by Warren
Mo wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 22:07
I mean ordinal. Like this is Trump's 70th worst scandal or some shit like that. What's the equivalent 70th worst scandal for Obama? Going on ESPN to fill out a March Madness bracket?
Right. It's a non scandal. Any other guy it'd be a scandal. But Trump is a pig and we all know it already. And he says stupid shit. Every day. Stupid shit. Every day he says stupid shit. I wish to hell people would stop talking about the stupid shit he says every day. As if anyone should pay attention.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 22:32
by Mo
The stupid shit was during negotiations on an immigration deal that will affect millions of people. The president saying, "Hey, let's not let people i from shithole countries," while Tom Cotton nods along and torpedoes the agreement is pretty relevant.

Also, people do care about that shit. It's basically how we got W. If the Clinton administration was as relatively squeaky clean as Obama, Gore would have won in an HW level landslide. Trump has basically compressed 8 years of Clinton scandals into less than a year.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 12 Jan 2018, 23:44
by Aresen
Mo wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 22:07
I mean ordinal. Like this is Trump's 70th worst scandal or some shit like that. What's the equivalent 70th worst scandal for Obama? Going on ESPN to fill out a March Madness bracket?
For Trump, I think we're going to have to expand that spreadsheet beyond 1,000 rows.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 02:33
by Warren
Mo wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 22:32
It's basically how we got W. If the Clinton administration was as relatively squeaky clean as Obama, Gore would have won in an HW level landslide.
LOL We got W for the same reason we got Trump, Gore was singularly awful. He lost his own state furchristsakes. Clinton's foibles had nothing to do with it.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 13:11
by Sandy
What bothers me about this is that if he’d said the same thing in prettier language, it wouldn’t be news. You’ve seen this attitude on the left and the right, and this “scandal” is more about a violation of making the subtext text than it is about immigration policy. There is some serious deflection going on in most of, though not all of, the punditariat.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 13:19
by Jennifer
Sandy wrote:
13 Jan 2018, 13:11
What bothers me about this is that if he’d said the same thing in prettier language, it wouldn’t be news.
I don't think the language offers sufficiently pretty ways to say "shithole. He didn't say, for example, that he wants "less uneducated" people, or "less unskilled" people (things which a given individual could, perhaps, overcome even in a poor crappy country); he wrote off entire countries and every individual in them, in crude language again underscoring what a bigot he is.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 13:33
by dead_elvis
Warren wrote:
12 Jan 2018, 22:25

But Trump is a pig and we all know it already. And he says stupid shit. Every day. Stupid shit. Every day he says stupid shit. I wish to hell people would stop talking about the stupid shit he says every day.
But it has to be called out because we simply cannot let stand the normalization of politicians saying stupid things.

Yeah, I couldn't keep a straight face while saying that.

Re: Orange is the new President

Posted: 13 Jan 2018, 14:06
by Pham Nuwen
http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news/co ... index.html

Huh. This was in the works from back in 2015 but the press release says the recent tax bill. I'm wondering if they are just trying to get ahead of any future nafta issues.