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Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 10 Apr 2019, 13:41
by JD
Pete Buttigieg, Libertarian? (Per Betteridge's Law, no.)

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 10:27
by thoreau
Well, WikiLeaks is no longer working to reelect Trump...

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Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 11 Apr 2019, 19:49
by Eric the .5b
thoreau wrote:
11 Apr 2019, 10:27
Well, WikiLeaks is no longer working to reelect Trump...

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Unless Hillary declares, Team Blue might just win.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 10:26
by JD
Sanders is apparently trying to show he can play the protectionism game even better than Trump, as he says he would ban GM from Federal contract for the crime of closing US factories and opening Mexican ones.
https://www.cleveland.com/politics/2019 ... ident.html

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 10:39
by JasonL
It's okay when he does it. The other guy hates brown people but this guy cares about american jobs.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 11:27
by D.A. Ridgely
Since the U.S. government is required by law to buy only 'American manufactured' vehicles, never mind those Japanese and European cars that are actually made in the U.S., it's obvious Sanders is in the pocket of Big Ford.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 15 Apr 2019, 11:54
by Mo
JasonL wrote:
15 Apr 2019, 10:39
It's okay when he does it. The other guy hates brown people but this guy cares about american jobs.
Bernie also hates brown people.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 11:46
by Mo
Roy Moore currently leading in polls for the R candidate to challenge Doug Jones.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 11:54
by thoreau
Does he actually want to win, or does he just want to come in a little behind?

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Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 12:14
by Pham Nuwen
thoreau wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 11:54
Does he actually want to win, or does he just want to come in a little behind?

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There's an age requirement there. But I don't think Roy Moore cares.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 12:47
by Ellie
Mo wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 11:46
Roy Moore currently leading in polls for the R candidate to challenge Doug Jones.
Doug Jones?

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Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 16 Apr 2019, 13:26
by D.A. Ridgely
thoreau wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 11:54
Does he actually want to win, or does he just want to come in a little behind?

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I'm stealing that.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 17 Apr 2019, 21:02
by Taktix®
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... 12HvqICRLE

Oh boy oh boy oh boy please draw out the Westboro Baptist nutjobs to remind everyone of their existence...

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 14:58
by Aresen
Biden set to announce presidential run next week

We appear to be approaching the heat death of the universe more quickly than I thought.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 17:05
by D.A. Ridgely
"Biden 2020: A Fondler, not a Groper"

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 19 Apr 2019, 17:09
by Pham Nuwen
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
19 Apr 2019, 17:05
"Biden 2020: A Fondler, not a Groper"
Bam!

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 11:58
by JD
Bernie Sanders did not get a great reception at a female-voters-of-color event.

That aside, I know I'm just a big old libertarian meanie, but I really don't get people who ask stuff like this:
Bernie Sanders “did not present a particular set of policies (to show how he’d tackle racial violence)”, said Sayu Bhojwani...

She asked Sanders what he would to do prevent hate crimes such as the recent burning down of three historically black churches in Louisiana. She found his response vague.
What exactly do people want the President(ial candidate) to say anyway? How exactly is the President supposed to prevent some racist loon from getting a can of gasoline and some matches and burning down a local church? I suppose they're just looking for him to say something that makes it sound like He Really Gets It, regardless of how realistic it is.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:02
by thoreau
I think the only thing you can really say is some mix of "We need A National Conversation On Race and White People Need To Listen..." (because God knows we never discuss that) and "I have supported every piece of hate crimes legislation to come before Congress and as President I would sign an EVEN MOAR TUFF hate crimes law."

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:03
by Aresen
JD wrote:
26 Apr 2019, 11:58
Bernie Sanders did not get a great reception at a female-voters-of-color event.

That aside, I know I'm just a big old libertarian meanie, but I really don't get people who ask stuff like this:
Bernie Sanders “did not present a particular set of policies (to show how he’d tackle racial violence)”, said Sayu Bhojwani...

She asked Sanders what he would to do prevent hate crimes such as the recent burning down of three historically black churches in Louisiana. She found his response vague.
What exactly do people want the President(ial candidate) to say anyway? How exactly is the President supposed to prevent some racist loon from getting a can of gasoline and some matches and burning down a local church? I suppose they're just looking for him to say something that makes it sound like He Really Gets It, regardless of how realistic it is.
Well, if Trump can run into a school to stop a shooter, Bernie can put on a fireman's uniform.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 12:16
by dhex
Probably something about treating white nationalists as domestic terrorists would have helped him in that context.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 26 Apr 2019, 15:35
by Hugh Akston
The right answer is "There's no way to prevent crime. But burning a black church is a clear criminal violation of civil rights laws. So I would make sure the FBI and DOJ prioritize working with local law enforcement to investigate, apprehend, and prosecute people who commit hate crimes to the full extent of the law."

Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 18:30
by Mo
dhex wrote:Probably something about treating white nationalists as domestic terrorists would have helped him in that context.
You would think a dude planning for 4 years to be president would figure out the hand wavey things to say to a core political constituency that he has to win over. Especially if it was the primary weakness he had last run. It’s probably fair to say that Bernie doesn’t care about that part of the electorate that he hasn’t figured out how to talk to black people aside from “I went to the March on Washington when I was in college”. Like give enough of a fuck to pretend you give a fuck about them.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 21:03
by Hugh Akston
Mo wrote:
27 Apr 2019, 18:30
dhex wrote:Probably something about treating white nationalists as domestic terrorists would have helped him in that context.
You would think a dude planning for 4 years to be president would figure out the hand wavey things to say to a core political constituency that he has to win over. Especially if it was the primary weakness he had last run. It’s probably fair to say that Bernie doesn’t care about that part of the electorate that he hasn’t figured out how to talk to black people aside from “I went to the March on Washington when I was in college”. Like give enough of a fuck to pretend you give a fuck about them.
Counterpoint: black women aren't going to vote for Republicans so who cares what they want to hear

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 21:07
by Kolohe
Getting 6 or 7 out of every 100 African american women to stay home is as good as (and far easier than) getting 3 out of 100 to vote for Trump.

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Posted: 27 Apr 2019, 21:58
by thoreau
And they matter a lot in primaries.

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