Calling 2020 for Entropy

User avatar
Jadagul
Posts: 6869
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 18:51

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Jadagul » 14 Nov 2018, 21:54

Eric the .5b wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:41
Mo wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:09
Lincoln was edgy in the House and lost a Senate campaign before entering the White House. Don’t @ me
(Emphasis added.) What does that mean?
When you make a post on social media and preface someone's screen name with an @ sign, it will automatically link them and notify them that you mentioned them. So @ing somebody is making a post that notifies them.

More colloquially, in this context it means you're making either a shitpost about them or a post shitting on them. As in "Lincoln was definitely not a loser. I don't know what you're smoking, @Mo".

So "Don't @ me" is "I am being performatively controversial, or pretending that what I said was controversial, and if you try to argue with me I'm going to ignore you so you shouldn't bother."

User avatar
thoreau
Posts: 26829
Joined: 06 May 2010, 12:56
Location: Back to the lab again

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by thoreau » 14 Nov 2018, 22:05

If Beto keeps up a good image for the next four years he could be a good VP pick, since the potential to flip Texas would make Trump or Pence shit bricks.
"just build a quantum foam wall and make the tardigrades pay for it."
--Hugh

User avatar
Aresen
Posts: 15040
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
Location: Great White Pacific Northwest

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Aresen » 14 Nov 2018, 22:27

Jennifer wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:39
Aresen wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:35
Jennifer wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:21
Whoever DOES get the Dem nod in 2020, I hope like hell it's not Kamala Harris.
In the 1960s and 1970s, there was a lot of 'New York Hate' that carried over to any candidate from that state. I think California has stepped into the 'State that Everybody Hates' slot in that regard. I could see Harris getting the VP slot.
My dislike for Harris has nothing to do with her being from California.
I did not mean to suggest that it was. But California is resented and hated in much of the USA. That dislike is transferred to politicians from that state,
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one

Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex

User avatar
Taktix®
Posts: 7794
Joined: 07 May 2010, 05:29
Location: The Caribbean

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Taktix® » 14 Nov 2018, 23:24

thoreau wrote:If Beto keeps up a good image for the next four years he could be a good VP pick, since the potential to flip Texas would make Trump or Pence shit bricks.
VP Beto would be one of those safe moves that wouldn't work. As VP, his only purpose would be to swing Texas blue, which he was unable to do last week, while dampening his star power by being stuck in the background behind whatever generic Dem is 1st on the ticket.

But said star power could work at the top of the ticket by bringing out the ever-elusive youth vote, which, though it wasn't quite enough to turn Texas, would likely be enough to push PA or Wisconsin or others over to the blue column.

But the youth vote would only turn out for President Beto, not President Old White Guy plus VP Beto...
"Guilty as charged. Go ahead and ban me from the mall." - Ellie

User avatar
Eric the .5b
Posts: 12806
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 16:29

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Nov 2018, 00:13

Jadagul wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:54
Eric the .5b wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:41
Mo wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:09
Lincoln was edgy in the House and lost a Senate campaign before entering the White House. Don’t @ me
(Emphasis added.) What does that mean?
When you make a post on social media and preface someone's screen name with an @ sign, it will automatically link them and notify them that you mentioned them. So @ing somebody is making a post that notifies them.

More colloquially, in this context it means you're making either a shitpost about them or a post shitting on them. As in "Lincoln was definitely not a loser. I don't know what you're smoking, @Mo".

So "Don't @ me" is "I am being performatively controversial, or pretending that what I said was controversial, and if you try to argue with me I'm going to ignore you so you shouldn't bother."
Ah, OK.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
"Cyberpunk never really gave the government enough credit for their ability to secure a favorable prenup during the Corporate-State wedding." - Shem

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 25281
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Warren » 15 Nov 2018, 10:06

Jennifer wrote:
14 Nov 2018, 21:39
My dislike for Harris has nothing to do with her being from California.
Why do you dislike her?
Oh wait. It's because she's black isn't it? :)
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

User avatar
Jennifer
Posts: 23107
Joined: 28 Apr 2010, 14:03

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Jennifer » 15 Nov 2018, 16:37

Most of the wretched things Harris has done have already been mentioned on this forum somewhere or the other -- the worst by far IMO is the California AG office under Harris opposing the legalization of marijuana on the grounds that the state needs a steady supply of safe, trustworthy, non-violent prisoners to fight wildfires at slave wages -- but a more recent shithead thing she did has not been mentioned here, so far as I know: here in Georgia, the governor's race is still possibly up for grabs, because of uncounted absentee or provisional ballots. So Stacey Abrams the Democratic candidate is of course pushing for all votes to be counted, and a few days ago Kamala Harris tweeted a link to one of those fundraiser things to donate money to Abrams for that purpose -- but Harris' tweet did NOT mention that HALF of all money donated to Abrams via said link would actually go to ... [drum roll] ... Kamala Harris.
"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b

User avatar
Ellie
Posts: 11751
Joined: 21 Apr 2010, 18:34

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Ellie » 31 Dec 2018, 13:35

Apparently Elizabeth Warren is running for president? The liberals on my Facebook friends list are all peeing themselves with excitement.
"NB stands for nota bene do not @ me" - nicole

User avatar
thoreau
Posts: 26829
Joined: 06 May 2010, 12:56
Location: Back to the lab again

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by thoreau » 31 Dec 2018, 13:41

The best summary I've heard of Elizabeth Warren is "Even less appealing to Midwestern swing voters than Clinton."
"just build a quantum foam wall and make the tardigrades pay for it."
--Hugh

User avatar
Pham Nuwen
Posts: 7019
Joined: 27 Apr 2010, 02:17

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Pham Nuwen » 31 Dec 2018, 13:46

Warren huh? Well I guess it's Trump til 2024. *sigh*
Goddamn libertarian message board. Hugh Akston

leave me to my mescaline smoothie in peace, please. dhex

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 25281
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Warren » 31 Dec 2018, 13:49

Ellie wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 13:35
Apparently Elizabeth Warren is running for president? The liberals on my Facebook friends list are all peeing themselves with excitement.
Is it fair to say the general consensus marks her as the Front Runner? She's got a name, she's got the resume, she's got the Progressive creds. There's a lot of water needs flowing over the dam before we get a nominee, but she's going to be a tough domino for anyone else to knock over.
Which way the general goes is going to depend on how many times Trump doubles down on the shutdown and trade war. Of course he could be setting up a summer economic rally, but I really don't think even his two dimensional checkers game is that strong.
If we do get President Liz the Trump years are going to look a whole lot better.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

User avatar
Aresen
Posts: 15040
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
Location: Great White Pacific Northwest

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Aresen » 31 Dec 2018, 13:55

The main point for the eventual Blue nominee will be "I'm not Trump".

/Captain Obvious
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one

Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 25281
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Warren » 31 Dec 2018, 14:02

Aresen wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 13:55
The main point for the eventual Blue nominee will be "I'm not Trump".

/Captain Obvious
That's a losing hand without a kicker.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

User avatar
Aresen
Posts: 15040
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
Location: Great White Pacific Northwest

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Aresen » 31 Dec 2018, 14:24

Warren wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 14:02
Aresen wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 13:55
The main point for the eventual Blue nominee will be "I'm not Trump".

/Captain Obvious
That's a losing hand without a kicker.
"I'm not Hillary, either." :P
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one

Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex

User avatar
Kolohe
Posts: 13621
Joined: 06 May 2010, 10:51

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Kolohe » 31 Dec 2018, 17:27

I think it's unfair to compare Warren with Clinton, and I think she can beat Trump.

I also don't think she'll be as socialist as everyone fears/hopes she will be.
when you wake up as the queen of the n=1 kingdom and mount your steed non sequiturius, do you look out upon all you survey and think “damn, it feels good to be a green idea sleeping furiously?" - dhex

User avatar
Shem
Posts: 7324
Joined: 27 Apr 2010, 00:27

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Shem » 31 Dec 2018, 17:46

Biden is the presumptive front runner, still. Not that he'd win, but if he threw in, he'd swamp a lot of marginals.

Warren would beat Trump pretty handily. You guys underestimate how well "fuck Wall Street to bail out Main Street" rhetoric plays with Independents.
"VOTE SHEMOCRACY! You will only have to do it once!" -Loyalty Officer Aresen

User avatar
Jadagul
Posts: 6869
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 18:51

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Jadagul » 31 Dec 2018, 17:49

There are like twenty people running. Warren is just the first top-tier candidate to formally announce.

She's top-tier but she's not at the top of the top tier. Probably around fourth or fifth on the leaderboards right now? But maybe third. Hard to say.

User avatar
Eric the .5b
Posts: 12806
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 16:29

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Eric the .5b » 31 Dec 2018, 17:56

Shem wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:46
Biden is the presumptive front runner, still. Not that he'd win, but if he threw in, he'd swamp a lot of marginals.

Warren would beat Trump pretty handily. You guys underestimate how well "fuck Wall Street to bail out Main Street" rhetoric plays with Independents.
Independents barely exist. There are just Reds and Blues who don't like to be identified as Reds and Blues.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
"Cyberpunk never really gave the government enough credit for their ability to secure a favorable prenup during the Corporate-State wedding." - Shem

User avatar
Eric the .5b
Posts: 12806
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 16:29

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Eric the .5b » 31 Dec 2018, 17:59

Jadagul wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:49
There are like twenty people running. Warren is just the first top-tier candidate to formally announce.

She's top-tier but she's not at the top of the top tier. Probably around fourth or fifth on the leaderboards right now? But maybe third. Hard to say.
After listening to a bunch of Blues rant about how we mustn't "cede any ground" to the alt-right by not running a wildly unpopular nominee who can't win, I find your logic soothing.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
"Cyberpunk never really gave the government enough credit for their ability to secure a favorable prenup during the Corporate-State wedding." - Shem

User avatar
Jadagul
Posts: 6869
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 18:51

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Jadagul » 31 Dec 2018, 18:24

I mean, she has a real chance at the nomination. (She has a real chance at the presidency, which is strictly less than her chance at the nomination). But she's not the frontrunner, who is, in fact, probably Biden. There's also Bernie, Kamala Harris, Klobuchar, Booker, Beto, a few others I'm not remembering...

Based on not very much research, I'd take Warren over Bernie or Harris but after Beto, Biden, or Klobuchar.

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 25281
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Warren » 31 Dec 2018, 19:27

Eric the .5b wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:56
Shem wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:46
Biden is the presumptive front runner, still. Not that he'd win, but if he threw in, he'd swamp a lot of marginals.

Warren would beat Trump pretty handily. You guys underestimate how well "fuck Wall Street to bail out Main Street" rhetoric plays with Independents.
Independents barely exist. There are just Reds and Blues who don't like to be identified as Reds and Blues.
There is a sizable chunk of the electorate that are willing to change hats from one year to the next.
THIS SPACE FOR RENT

User avatar
Eric the .5b
Posts: 12806
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 16:29

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Eric the .5b » 31 Dec 2018, 20:03

Warren wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 19:27
Eric the .5b wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:56
Shem wrote:
31 Dec 2018, 17:46
Biden is the presumptive front runner, still. Not that he'd win, but if he threw in, he'd swamp a lot of marginals.

Warren would beat Trump pretty handily. You guys underestimate how well "fuck Wall Street to bail out Main Street" rhetoric plays with Independents.
Independents barely exist. There are just Reds and Blues who don't like to be identified as Reds and Blues.
There is a sizable chunk of the electorate that are willing to change hats from one year to the next.
To my knowledge, the studies still show that they don't actually do that very much. What gets swayed is whether they decide to vote or not for the team they don't want to admit they support.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
"Cyberpunk never really gave the government enough credit for their ability to secure a favorable prenup during the Corporate-State wedding." - Shem

User avatar
Aresen
Posts: 15040
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
Location: Great White Pacific Northwest

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Aresen » 02 Jan 2019, 10:32

I doubt Mitt is planning a new Presidential run and he's probably secure as a Mormon in Utah, but this is still interesting:

Mitt Romney: Trump has caused worldwide dismay
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one

Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex

User avatar
Shem
Posts: 7324
Joined: 27 Apr 2010, 00:27

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Shem » 02 Jan 2019, 12:09

Not for 2020 unless things really fall apart, but maybe for 2024.
"VOTE SHEMOCRACY! You will only have to do it once!" -Loyalty Officer Aresen

User avatar
Andrew
Posts: 6346
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 21:52
Location: Vale of Eternal Fire

Re: Calling 2020 for Entropy

Post by Andrew » 02 Jan 2019, 13:29

Mittens is turning 72 this year, so him planning on a 2024 run would be quite optimistic.

I'd say odds are good that Flake will make a primary challenge in 2020.
We live in the fucked age. Get used to it. - dhex

The sun only shines when a woman is being sexually abused. - Warren

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests