Whither the GOP? (post-Trump edition)

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Mo wrote:
08 Jul 2020, 03:00
dhex wrote:
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If they didn't overdo the whispering that's one of the finest political attack ads I've ever seen. It's a fundraiser aimed at people who want to be cruel to him but will never get the chance. I dig it.
Yes, it's much better than their fundraiser targeted at Louise Mensch.I also love that some of it is settling beefs with people they hate like Parscale.

And while it is clear that all the good graphics designers are Democrats, all the good attack ad producers are/were Republicans. An underrated potential outcome of the Trump era is a realignment in the balance of attack ad production.

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So, DJT successfully put a shiv in Jeff Sessions' back. Assuming Tuberville goes on to knock of Doug Jones*, it looks like the GOP is going to be wearing Trump for some time.

*All the clever people say Tuberville will beat Jones and 538 has Jones the underdog
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I mean, it's Alabama. This is, at most, going to be a headache for some fundraiser who winds up having to spend money to hold a seat that should be a no-brainer. That said, if I were Jones, I'd rather face Tuberville, who has spent the primary actively avoiding anything approaching vetting. Insofar as there's an infinitesimal shot, it's against him.
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I love how the AL Dems are going after him with the one useful line of attack, he’s a bad football coach.
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Mo wrote:
15 Jul 2020, 16:44
I love how the AL Dems are going after him with the one useful line of attack, he’s a bad football coach.
If that's the state of American society then Jones could clinch it if by sponsoring a bill replacing prison with rehabilitation. (Brought to you by Carl's Jr.)
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Mo wrote:
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I love how the AL Dems are going after him with the one useful line of attack, he’s a bad football coach.
:lol:
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I figured that was the only chance that Sessions, and now Jones, had/have: That Alabama grads can't bring themselves to vote for a former Auburn coach.
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And then you hit Auburn grads with this 🔥🔥🔥

“Tuberville couldn’t score a TD for 2 weeks with 4 first rounders on his offense. He also lost to Vanderbilt.”
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15 Jul 2020, 18:02
I figured that was the only chance that Sessions, and now Jones, had/have: That Alabama grads can't bring themselves to vote for a former Auburn coach.
Bama fans may be feeling magnanimous with an 8-4 streak for the past twelve years, although the Tuberville stretch seems to have been bad for 'Bama so maybe not.

RE: him being a bad coach, I couldn't evaluate his overall record, but going 7-3 against 'Bama during his tenure is 90% of the qualifications for Auburn fans to call you a great coach. SEC championships and bowl appearances are great, but beating 'Bama is the number one goal.
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Mo wrote:
15 Jul 2020, 16:44
I love how the AL Dems are going after him with the one useful line of attack, he’s a bad football coach.
I mean, they're not wrong! He lost to Vandy! He's not fit for office!
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The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor of the Federalistwas saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.

ETA the bonkers part
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I don't care if they are funded by Meathead and a bunch of unemployed losers, TLP are the only real heroes of this election cycle.
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This is a question for DAR, were Democrats similarly pissy and dismissive of Reagan Democrats or did they try to actually win them over? Though I guess primarying Carter kinda answers that question.
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Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:42
The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor was saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.
Is NR now on the Trump Train? If so, we should mount a magnet on Buckley's corpse, wrap the coffin in copper wire, and power a small city.
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Number 6 wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:08
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:42
The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor was saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.
Is NR now on the Trump Train? If so, we should mount a magnet on Buckley's corpse, wrap the coffin in copper wire, and power a small city.
I've been saying that all along, but apparently it's considered "grave robbing."
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Number 6 wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:08
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:42
The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor was saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.
Is NR now on the Trump Train? If so, we should mount a magnet on Buckley's corpse, wrap the coffin in copper wire, and power a small city.
With the exception of Ponnuru and Williamson, they are either all in or anti-anti. And I’m pretty certain that Buckley would have taken the anti-anti route.
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Shem wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:28
Number 6 wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:08
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:42
The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor was saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.
Is NR now on the Trump Train? If so, we should mount a magnet on Buckley's corpse, wrap the coffin in copper wire, and power a small city.
I've been saying that all along, but apparently it's considered "grave robbing."
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Number 6 wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 17:08
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 12:42
The Lincoln Project is definitely getting under the skin of the right. I’m pretty sure NR has more articles attacking them than attacking Biden. One of which was where a former senior editor was saying that you can tell a lot about them by who funds the Lincoln Project.
Is NR now on the Trump Train? If so, we should mount a magnet on Buckley's corpse, wrap the coffin in copper wire, and power a small city.
David French left because there was so much rah rah Trumpism IIRC.

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Did he leave, or was he pushed?
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He and Goldberg claim they left voluntarily without being asked. I’m not sure how much I believe it and how much is them covering for friends/org to prevent bridge burning.
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Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 19:06
He and Goldberg claim they left voluntarily without being asked. I’m not sure how much I believe it and how much is them covering for friends/org to prevent bridge burning.
Whether they were pushed or left on their own accord, the reason for their departure is the same.
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Warren wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 19:09
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 19:06
He and Goldberg claim they left voluntarily without being asked. I’m not sure how much I believe it and how much is them covering for friends/org to prevent bridge burning.
Whether they were pushed or left on their own accord, the reason for their departure is the same.
FWIW that’s why Bret Stephens and Bari Weiss left the WSJ OpEd page years ago. They didn’t feel comfortable in an increasingly Trumpy environment.
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That's really too bad. Is there any publication that approximates a principled, thinking conservative conversation? Is there a principled, thinking conservative left anywhere?
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Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 14:33
This is a question for DAR, were Democrats similarly pissy and dismissive of Reagan Democrats or did they try to actually win them over? Though I guess primarying Carter kinda answers that question.

I thought Clinton - Southern, DLC - was the explicitly a plan to regain some Regan Democrats.
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Kolohe wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 23:36
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 14:33
This is a question for DAR, were Democrats similarly pissy and dismissive of Reagan Democrats or did they try to actually win them over? Though I guess primarying Carter kinda answers that question.

I thought Clinton - Southern, DLC - was the explicitly a plan to regain some Regan Democrats.
The DLC, for sure. Not sure how that relates to Carter, though. I mean, he didn't lose a second term because he was perceived as too liberal; he was perceived as ineffective. I don't think his own party was any more than lukewarm about his second campaign (maybe they were suffering malaise) and I suspect most of the Dems who voted for Reagan did so, more than any other reason, because of the Iran Hostage Crisis. If you mean the 84 race, I don't think the Mondale/Ferraro thought it had any chance of swaying the centerist Dems who voted for Reagan against Carter back into the fold. Clinton, otoh, absolutely. The DLC was all about moving to the center.

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