Whither the GOP? (post-Trump edition)

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This is what I was talking about re: Catholic integralists.
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The crazy are just coming out in droves these days.

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Mo wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 17:14
This is what I was talking about re: Catholic integralists.
Which I would call a subset of Christian Dominionism but, yeah, that's the basic and fundamentally bad idea.

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Mo wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 17:14
This is what I was talking about re: Catholic integralists.
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I had never heard the term 'Catholic integralist' before seeing it here. I googled it and am still WTF? Do these people have the slightest idea of the consequences of what they advocate? Or are they fully aware and fine with it?
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I didn’t need to read that.

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JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
I would expect the Spanish Inquisition.
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I'm counting on the internecine battle between Roman Catholic conservatives and Evangelical Protestant conservatives, both of whom hate each other and suspect the others are going to Hell, anyway.

The funny (ironic) thing here is that the great religious wars in Europe didn't end because both sides started to be more tolerant of each other but because it finally dawned on them that neither side was going to win. This, in a nutshell, is my only hope for the future of religious wars, too.

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Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
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Shem wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 00:10
Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
It's a good thing you're afflicted with crippling cynicism, otherwise you'd be far too clever to be allowed to live.
Though in fairness, the bar for being too clever to live is being lowered even as I type this.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 00:17
Shem wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 00:10
Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
It's a good thing you're afflicted with crippling cynicism, otherwise you'd be far too clever to be allowed to live.
Though in fairness, the bar for being too clever to live is being lowered even as I type this.
One they realized it was easier to wall off the places that aren't part of the Camps, that was more or less inevitable.
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Kolohe wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:34
Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
I would expect the Spanish Inquisition.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 23:30
I'm counting on the internecine battle between Roman Catholic conservatives and Evangelical Protestant conservatives, both of whom hate each other and suspect the others are going to Hell, anyway.

The funny (ironic) thing here is that the great religious wars in Europe didn't end because both sides started to be more tolerant of each other but because it finally dawned on them that neither side was going to win. This, in a nutshell, is my only hope for the future of religious wars, too.
In essence this is what I have always maintained about democracy: It finally dawned on people in western Europe that it was easier and safer to take turns holding power and let the other guy grumble until it was his turn than sieze power and chop the heads off your opponents until the other side seized power in turn and did the same to you.

Democracy was never about some noble ideal of fairness - it was a mutual non-murder pact.
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I don't even know what I read. It felt like the author was masturbating into my face. But with words!
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 02:23
I don't even know what I read. It felt like the author was masturbating into my face. But with words!
This is true for most opinion pieces. Practice safe interneting!
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 02:23
I don't even know what I read. It felt like the author was masturbating into my face. But with words!
Really Pham. Such language demonstrates a disheartening lack of respect for our learned legal authorities. Perhaps spending the remainder of your life in solitary confinement will teach you some manners. You'll thank me later.
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There was no consent dammit! He just abused his word privilege and bukkake'd all into my face. He's a rapist. A word rapist. The bastard ....
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 11:56
There was no consent dammit! He just abused his word privilege and bukkake'd all into my face. He's a rapist. A word rapist. The bastard ....
*tsk* *tsk* You know better than that Pham. Men can't be raped, and you present as mostly male.
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Mostly ...
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Kolohe wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:34
Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
I would expect the Spanish Inquisition.
Ergo, you are nobody.
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lunchstealer wrote:
01 Apr 2020, 21:39
Kolohe wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:34
Hugh Akston wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 22:12
JasonL wrote:
31 Mar 2020, 21:51
I didn’t need to read that.
Your idea of what you need is based on a narrow conception of your own self-interest. But if you read it, contemplate it, understand it, embrace it, you will discover a far more profound sense of self-interest aligned with the common good. Trust me on this. You'll thank me later. And if you don't, there's always the gas chambers.
I would expect the Spanish Inquisition.
Ergo, you are nobody.
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Interesting longish read about a professional #neverTrumper
At first, the two focus groups that Longwell had convened for our visit seemed to suggest that the President was in more political trouble than we had realized. The groups—all women, all Trump voters with varying degrees of regret about him—started out identically: when the moderator asked how many thought the country was going in the right direction, not a single hand went up. The reason was their concern about the President. In the second group, a retired nurse said, “He has ability, but he’s also a narcissistic sociopath. And I voted for him! We all did.” (When she said this, Longwell exclaimed from where we were observing, behind a two-way mirror, “We have a George!”—as in George Conway, who had recently argued in The Atlantic that Trump has narcissistic personality disorder.) Others spoke of the “degradation of the office of President,” said that Trump was “just so full of hate,” and bemoaned his “flamboyant obnoxiousness.” Everyone said Trump’s Twitter feed was a problem.
But as she watched the Democratic Presidential race unfold, with its faltering front-runner and disjointed debates, Longwell became increasingly discouraged. For Republicans like her, the 2020 Democrats ranged from uninspiring (Biden) to terrifying (Sanders). Republican elected officials, meanwhile, seemed to be even more vocally pro-Trump than before impeachment. When Longwell and I returned to Pennsylvania in January for more focus groups, the women were still leery of Trump and the direction of the country, but this time the conversation was dominated by the most pro-Trump woman in the room. Sounding like a Fox News host on a roll, she said, “I think they hate him so bad because he threatens their liberal agenda. They want to get rid of him any way they can.”
tl;dr "the other party is the problem" is the problem
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For Republicans like her, the 2020 Democrats ranged from uninspiring (Biden) to terrifying (Sanders).
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I'd settle for uninspiring.
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