Brexit: what say ye?

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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by thoreau » 02 Apr 2019, 13:05

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Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Mo » 03 Apr 2019, 16:17

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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Kolohe » 03 Apr 2019, 16:25

Mo wrote:
03 Apr 2019, 16:17
The BBC’s version of Brexit.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ting-to-eu
This is pretty much straight out of the William and Mary playbook
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Jennifer » 03 Apr 2019, 16:45

The more I read about this mess, the more confusing it gets. (And yes, I do plow through pretty much everything The Economist has written on the subject.)

Question for anyone who might be more knowledgeable on the matter: if you were trying to make a brief, one-paragraph summary of the Brexit issue (not enough for a future British-history-class lesson on the matter, just enough for something like "Background info for future readers of a novel that's not about Brexit per se, but takes place in Britain during Brexit") -- would it work to say this:
Brexit was like if one U.S. state wanted to leave the Union (only pretend, somehow, there are no issues like "who gets federal property in that state" or "how much of the national debt should that state take with it in a divorce" or similar things, nor any fear this will lead to an armed conflict to force them to stay) -- basically, the state voted to leave the US because they thought "If we are no longer under federal government jurisdiction, we no longer have to obey all those various federal regulations and restrictions we find so onerous!" Which is true. Problem is, the state overlooked that it would also lose the benefits of being a US state rather than a foreign country -- everything from "your citizens have the right of open, unrestricted travel to any of the other 49 states and sundry territories" to "the presumed benefits of the Interstate Commerce Act apply to you in your dealings with other US states or the federal government, AND you get to elect senators and congressfolks who'll have a say on policy matters in future." Basically, the problem was that the dumbasses who voted "yes" thought they'd lose all the downsides of Union membership while somehow keeping all the benefits, and once they learned they'd lose the good stuff along with the bad they got very upset.
If this analogy is glaringly inaccurate in some way, how so?
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Post by Mo » 03 Apr 2019, 17:39

It is not that inaccurate. It actually would go a lot smoother if it wasn’t for those meddling kids, I mean the Northern Irish. The issue is how do you deal with a soft Irish border because of the Good Friday Agreement, not put up a customs border with NI and still have your cake. If the UK was England, Scotland and Wales, it is much easier. Hard border or customs border between NI and the rest of the UK strengthens republicans (as in Republic of Ireland). And therein lies the rub.

A better analogy would be NYC tries to secede, but wants to keep the 5 boroughs intact, but also allow Queens and Brooklyn to have free movement and trade with the rest of Long Island (pretend the Bronx wouldn’t have similar concerns re: Westchester here).
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 05 Apr 2019, 12:20

Do people in Westchester permit people in from the Bronx free passage into Westchester? (I mean, other than as housekeepers and such.) Have they considered building a wall?

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Post by Aresen » 05 Apr 2019, 13:51

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
05 Apr 2019, 12:20
Do people in Westchester permit people in from the Bronx free passage into Westchester? (I mean, other than as housekeepers and such.) Have they considered building a wall?
Bronxicans can get work permits if they are needed in Westchester. As long as they agree to help keep the Vermonins out.
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Post by Kolohe » 05 Apr 2019, 22:56

Pretty much everyone gets lost in Yonkers, so it all works itself out.
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Post by Mo » 06 Apr 2019, 06:02

You need to let Yankees players and fans get home easily.
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Post by Aresen » 06 Apr 2019, 11:28

After all the recent nonsense in the UK parliament, I am beginning hope that the hard leavers get their wish. The can enjoy the consequences. Same goes for those who voted 'leave' in 2016 not because they wanted to leave but because they wanted to 'teach the Eurocrats a lesson' or some such nonsense.

The soft leavers can pay the penalty for not getting a proper definition of what they really wanted.

Kinda tough on the 'Remainers', but they have been rather unhelpful when it became obvious that Brexit was inevitable.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Mo » 07 Apr 2019, 15:35

Fuck this guy.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 07 Apr 2019, 15:40

I think the desire to rewrite history is a strong emotion in people. Could also just be this guy is a jackass.
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Post by Mo » 07 Apr 2019, 16:02

The dude is a journalist/EU representative. He knows what he was doing.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Pham Nuwen » 07 Apr 2019, 16:26

Mo wrote:
07 Apr 2019, 16:02
The dude is a journalist/EU representative. He knows what he was doing.
So then he's a jackass.
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Post by Warren » 07 Apr 2019, 16:42

Pham Nuwen wrote:
07 Apr 2019, 16:26
Mo wrote:
07 Apr 2019, 16:02
The dude is a journalist/EU representative. He knows what he was doing.
So then he's a jackass.
We're not calling them journalos anymore?
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 07 Apr 2019, 18:11

I didn't know that was an option, Warren.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Hugh Akston » 07 Apr 2019, 19:15

Pham I suggest you start listening to the Fifth Column before you embarrass yourself further.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 07 Apr 2019, 20:25

I no read write gud hugh-man. Sent link to me playse?
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by thoreau » 10 Apr 2019, 13:29

British protest signs are something else.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Jake » 10 Apr 2019, 15:07

thoreau wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 13:29
British protest signs are something else.IMG_20190410_101938.jpg
Well, it's no "Get A BRAIN! MORANS", but the Brits show promise nonetheless.
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I can't tell the players without a scorecard
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Ellie » 10 Apr 2019, 18:26

Is the guy on the left spitting? At first I thought that puddle was, y'know, the fluids of Onan, or whatever is the polite way to say jizz.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by Jennifer » 10 Apr 2019, 18:28

Ellie wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 18:26
Is the guy on the left spitting? At first I thought that puddle was, y'know, the fluids of Onan, or whatever is the polite way to say jizz.
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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 11 Apr 2019, 02:43

Brexit is becoming to Great Britain what a balanced budget is in the U.S.: just another can to keep kicking down the road.

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Re: Brexit: what say ye?

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 11 Apr 2019, 02:44

Jennifer wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 18:28
Ellie wrote:
10 Apr 2019, 18:26
Is the guy on the left spitting? At first I thought that puddle was, y'know, the fluids of Onan, or whatever is the polite way to say jizz.
One hallmark of great art is its ability to support multiple interpretations.
I still chuckle mildly at Dorothy Parker naming her parakeet Onan because it kept spilling its seed.

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