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So Virginia might actually ratify the ERA. This is setting off a huge kerfuffle, because there's been all kinds of weirdness around the ratification of the amendment. Four states ratified the amendment, then subsequently rescinded their ratification. In one case the governor vetoed the rescission of the ratification. Congress put a preface on the bill introducing the amendment and it's not clear what legal effect that preface has - although 24 ratification resolutions explicitly referred to it.

So firstly it's not clear whether the amendment would even become part of the Constitution if Virginia does ratify it. And then there will be all the huge fights over what it would mean in practice...
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Aaron Sorkin makes the case against the ERA?
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Jadagul wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:13
If you fill the under-bed space with storage containers, things can't get kicked under and lost.
This.

You go to The Container Store or some such and buy those large plastic rectangular containers and you keep winter clothes there in the summer and vice versa or Christmas decorations or sex toys you'd just as soon the kiddies not get into and play with or whatever. A queen size bed is roughly 5 x 7. Add a foot or so of depth to that area and you're looking at roughly 35 sq. ft. of storage space. If you live in a sprawling house with an attic and basement and lots of walk-in closets, no big deal, but you'd have to be insane to ignore that much storage space in a small apartment or condo.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 23:04
Jadagul wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:13
If you fill the under-bed space with storage containers, things can't get kicked under and lost.
This.

You go to The Container Store or some such and buy those large plastic rectangular containers and you keep winter clothes there in the summer and vice versa or Christmas decorations or sex toys you'd just as soon the kiddies not get into and play with or whatever. A queen size bed is roughly 5 x 7. Add a foot or so of depth to that area and you're looking at roughly 35 sq. ft. of storage space. If you live in a sprawling house with an attic and basement and lots of walk-in closets, no big deal, but you'd have to be insane to ignore that much storage space in a small apartment or condo.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 23:04
Jadagul wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:13
If you fill the under-bed space with storage containers, things can't get kicked under and lost.
This.

You go to The Container Store or some such and buy those large plastic rectangular containers and you keep winter clothes there in the summer and vice versa or Christmas decorations or sex toys you'd just as soon the kiddies not get into and play with or whatever. A queen size bed is roughly 5 x 7. Add a foot or so of depth to that area and you're looking at roughly 35 sq. ft. of storage space. If you live in a sprawling house with an attic and basement and lots of walk-in closets, no big deal, but you'd have to be insane to ignore that much storage space in a small apartment or condo.
I've never seen a bed frame that was a foot off the ground. Most are six or seven inches, which limits that space more than you'd think.
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lunchstealer wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 16:10
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 23:04
Jadagul wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:13
If you fill the under-bed space with storage containers, things can't get kicked under and lost.
This.

You go to The Container Store or some such and buy those large plastic rectangular containers and you keep winter clothes there in the summer and vice versa or Christmas decorations or sex toys you'd just as soon the kiddies not get into and play with or whatever. A queen size bed is roughly 5 x 7. Add a foot or so of depth to that area and you're looking at roughly 35 sq. ft. of storage space. If you live in a sprawling house with an attic and basement and lots of walk-in closets, no big deal, but you'd have to be insane to ignore that much storage space in a small apartment or condo.
I've never seen a bed frame that was a foot off the ground. Most are six or seven inches, which limits that space more than you'd think.
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Warren wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 17:01
lunchstealer wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 16:10
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 23:04
Jadagul wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 16:13
If you fill the under-bed space with storage containers, things can't get kicked under and lost.
This.

You go to The Container Store or some such and buy those large plastic rectangular containers and you keep winter clothes there in the summer and vice versa or Christmas decorations or sex toys you'd just as soon the kiddies not get into and play with or whatever. A queen size bed is roughly 5 x 7. Add a foot or so of depth to that area and you're looking at roughly 35 sq. ft. of storage space. If you live in a sprawling house with an attic and basement and lots of walk-in closets, no big deal, but you'd have to be insane to ignore that much storage space in a small apartment or condo.
I've never seen a bed frame that was a foot off the ground. Most are six or seven inches, which limits that space more than you'd think.
What kind of sex toys are you guys using?
Nothing too crazy. Everything is under 100 horsepower.
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Vroom Vroooom!
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What are you talking about Mo?
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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
08 Jan 2020, 12:34
The point I don't think anyone else has mentioned is that raising the box springs and mattress off the ground on a frame opens up additional storage space. It's been a running joke in our marriage for decades now that we still don't have a headboard for our bed because we could never agree on one, but if we were ever to break down at this point and buy one, it would be the sort that has built-in drawers below the box springs.

There also comes a time when you want to be able to sit up on the edge of the bed at roughly the same height as if you were sitting in a chair. Maybe that's not a big deal, but it should be added to the pros column for elevating the bed off the floor.
Yep, the bed we bought when we moved into the new place has 3 drawers per side for extra storage. It's a platform bed, so no boxspring, and there's still room underneath the frame for low-form containers if we needed even more storage.

ETA - I see the point has already been addressed. I'd add 'houses built before 1945' to the abodes which might suffer from tiny closets or general lack a space to store your "stuff", as Carlin might say.
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Platform bed too hard without air bladder mattress.
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Warren wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 19:49
What are you talking about Mo?
Was responding to nicole's Little Women thing from a couple pages back and didn't realize at the time of response that it was a couple pages back. Have a big gryll backlog ever since the day Tapatalk died
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Warren wrote:
10 Jan 2020, 11:45
Platform bed too hard without air bladder mattress.
Nope.
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From a review of Meghan Daum's book:
I used to marvel at the cruelty of Gen X female writers who are eager to tell young women they should toughen up about sexual violence, or who question whether sexual violence is as bad as we say it is, or who prefer to think of abusers as a bunch of bad apples rather than products of a foundational flaw in our culture. The sentiment Daum expresses here, a little self-mockingly—“Why can’t they be tough like we were?”—is the one I imagine women her age thinking all the time. But there’s more to it than that, and Daum is so brilliant that I’m still shocked she hasn’t considered that congratulating yourself for toughness is much less important than making a world where toughness isn’t necessary.
I too believe that women should make a world where toughness isn't necessary (because no one is alive).
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Was it Camille Paglia who coined the term "infirmary feminism"?
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nicole wrote:
28 Jan 2020, 12:26
From a review of Meghan Daum's book:
I used to marvel at the cruelty of Gen X female writers who are eager to tell young women they should toughen up about sexual violence, or who question whether sexual violence is as bad as we say it is, or who prefer to think of abusers as a bunch of bad apples rather than products of a foundational flaw in our culture. The sentiment Daum expresses here, a little self-mockingly—“Why can’t they be tough like we were?”—is the one I imagine women her age thinking all the time. But there’s more to it than that, and Daum is so brilliant that I’m still shocked she hasn’t considered that congratulating yourself for toughness is much less important than making a world where toughness isn’t necessary.
I too believe that women should make a world where toughness isn't necessary (because no one is alive).
I can't speak to exactly which sentiments the author is talking about, but when Millennial feminism asserts that merely pressuring a woman to have sex with you means if she does that it's non-consensual, Millennial/Zoomer women should be encouraged to toughen up and stand up for their own feelings. Actual sexual violence and The Implication are legit problems, but if you know that you're not in physical danger, you should feel empowered to say, "Look, no I don't want to have sex with you today, and if you don't lay off I'm going to [leave|ask you to leave]."

And I'm not saying this just to push back against the everything-is-violence-including-explicitly-non-violent-speech-and-behavior trend, but because no woman should be encouraged to be so meek and other-serving that they think they don't have a choice when a guy persistently asks for sex. Or even if a guy or girl or group persistently asks for you to bake cookies for the fucking bake sale. If you are taught that you don't have to say no to things you don't want, but that everyone else needs to stop asking, you're being set up for a life of misery, because the implication is that you are expected to cave to pressure.
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I'm enjoying a lot of the replies in this thread but obviously I have NOT experienced this as a "third rail" issue with other women in real life




eta
has anyone else found that discussing marriage/last name decisions to be a massive third rail in their discussions with other women:
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Unrelated: when y'all post tweets, could you also quote the content? On both of my computers, I cannot see tweets on this forum, nor do I even see a clickable link -- all I see is the bluebird logo.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 11:44
I mean... I can't tell if he means to own himself all the time, like performance art or something.
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He's so into self-ownership that he should get an honorary libertarian decoder ring.
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In the run-up to marriage, many couples, particularly those of a more progressive bent, will encounter a problem: What is to be done about the last name?
There's no real wrong answer; it should all be to personal choice.
Some have attempted work-arounds...or—more creative—Smilors.
Except that. That is wrong, and if you do it, you should be beaten with a rattan cane until you see sense
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My wife took my name because during the discussion about what to do with names I suggested we could go with a completely unrelated name like being the Calrissians (actual example used). Mrs. Mo decided taking my name was preferable
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Shem wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:24
In the run-up to marriage, many couples, particularly those of a more progressive bent, will encounter a problem: What is to be done about the last name?
There's no real wrong answer; it should all be to personal choice.
Some have attempted work-arounds...or—more creative—Smilors.
Except that. That is wrong, and if you do it, you should be beaten with a rattan cane until you see sense
Is "smilor" supposed to mean something to me?

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