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Re: Putin on the Writs

Post by Kolohe » 14 Feb 2017, 09:43

lunchstealer wrote:Soooo, Flynn got fucked.

I would be so amused if he found someone to give him immunity to dish on Trump.
There were a lot of own goals in his downfall, including having the worst. ally. ever. in his son, and needlessly being the spokesperson for a hard line on Iran.
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Re: Putin on the Writs

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Re: Putin on the Writs

Post by Hugh Akston » 16 Feb 2017, 10:27

It's becoming very difficult to distinguish sarcasm from authenticasm around here. I mean nobody seemed to freak out about it in '015, or '012, or the many other times over the century or so that Russia and the US have been spying on one another.
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Re: Putin on the Writs

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Hugh Akston wrote:
It's becoming very difficult to distinguish sarcasm from authenticasm around here. I mean nobody seemed to freak out about it in '015, or '012, or the many other times over the century or so that Russia and the US have been spying on one another.
Sorry, not meant as sarcasm.

The fact that large nations spying on each other is not in dispute and did not pass unknown to this stationary observer, but the Russians sure do appear to be getting more bold...
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Re: Putin on the Writs

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Hugh Akston wrote:
It's becoming very difficult to distinguish sarcasm from authenticasm around here. I mean nobody seemed to freak out about it in '015, or '012, or the many other times over the century or so that Russia and the US have been spying on one another.
This is a problem I'm having with the news in general right now.
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Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
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Taktix® wrote:Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
You might want to be more careful when using words like unprecedented.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
Taktix® wrote:Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
You might want to be more careful when using words like unprecedented.
Fair enough.
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Post by thoreau » 16 Feb 2017, 11:32

Relax, guys. Those aren't foreign intelligence officers off the coast. They're domestic surveillance.
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Post by Kolohe » 16 Feb 2017, 11:57

Thinking about it, Donald Trump opposed the Indian casinos that are just a few miles from the navy base, but those are the best nexuses for foreign intelligence collection of, and financial leverage over, the various peeps that work for the Navy and Electric Boat.
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Kolohe wrote:Thinking about it, Donald Trump opposed the Indian casinos that are just a few miles from the navy base, but those are the best nexuses for foreign intelligence collection of, and financial leverage over, the various peeps that work for the Navy and Electric Boat.
His business interests come first. Rodina second. America third.
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Post by Kolohe » 16 Feb 2017, 12:12

Fair point.
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Post by Jennifer » 16 Feb 2017, 13:56

Kolohe wrote:Thinking about it, Donald Trump opposed the Indian casinos that are just a few miles from the navy base, but those are the best nexuses for foreign intelligence collection of, and financial leverage over, the various peeps that work for the Navy and Electric Boat.
And so long as Trump remains president, it looks like Mar-A-Lago will be the best nexus for foreign intelligence collection of Trump's meetings with other heads of state.
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Post by Mo » 16 Feb 2017, 15:03

Hugh Akston wrote:
Taktix® wrote:Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
You might want to be more careful when using words like unprecedented.
I think POTUS threatening to randomly sink a sigint ship in international waters is unprecedented.

Also, for the record precedent is not necessarily good.
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Mo wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:
Taktix® wrote:Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
You might want to be more careful when using words like unprecedented.
I think POTUS threatening to randomly sink a sigint ship in international waters is unprecedented.

Also, for the record precedent is not necessarily good.
No, but when someone is trying to construct a "THE RUSSIANS ARE DOING MORE THAN EVAR!!!ELEVEN" narrative, some context helps bring it back to reality.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 16 Feb 2017, 17:04

Right, my point is that this happens with some regularity, and media accounts should probably provide some context to that effect rather than going with headlines screaming DISASTER LOOMS AS FLAMING BALL OF LIGHT RISES FROM EASTERN HORIZON
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Post by Mo » 16 Feb 2017, 17:07

I'm actually agreeing with you both, the argument should be, "This is bad," not, "This is new." Unprecedented can be good. Outside of a brief time during the 80s, bad cannot be good.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 16 Feb 2017, 17:12

But it's not even that bad. Ivan has been spying on Uncle Sam (and vice versa) for at least century now, and not much ill has come of it. We even got some pretty good movies and TV as a result.
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Post by Mo » 16 Feb 2017, 17:28

Hugh Akston wrote:But it's not even that bad. Ivan has been spying on Uncle Sam (and vice versa) for at least century now, and not much ill has come of it. We even got some pretty good movies and TV as a result.
Oh yeah, the spy boat in international waters isn't even in bad. It's BAU.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 16 Feb 2017, 17:37

Mo wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:But it's not even that bad. Ivan has been spying on Uncle Sam (and vice versa) for at least century now, and not much ill has come of it. We even got some pretty good movies and TV as a result.
Oh yeah, the spy boat in international waters isn't even in bad. It's BAU.
At least John Le Carre will be able to start writing better spy novels.

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Post by Kolohe » 16 Feb 2017, 18:35

Mo wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:
Taktix® wrote:Russia is getting unprecedentedly bold, Exhibit B: Russian fighter jets 'buzz' US warship in Black Sea

Also, you'll know my sarcasm when I lay it on thick, because I'm in to clarity as well as humor...
You might want to be more careful when using words like unprecedented.
I think POTUS threatening to randomly sink a sigint ship in international waters is unprecedented.

Also, for the record precedent is not necessarily good.
He didn't threaten to blow up a sigint ship.

He thinks that people will love it if he blows up that sigint ship, but he's not going to do that because he wants to get along with the Russians.

Which is worse.
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Post by nicole » 02 Apr 2017, 08:43

Chechen authorities are arresting and killing gay men thanks to Putin's attempts to coopt Islamist sentiment. Or are they?
A spokesman for Chechnya’s leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, denied the report in a statement to Interfax on Saturday, calling the article “absolute lies and disinformation.”

“You cannot arrest or repress people who just don’t exist in the republic,” the spokesman, Alvi Karimov, told the news agency.

“If such people existed in Chechnya, law enforcement would not have to worry about them, as their own relatives would have sent them to where they could never return,” Mr. Karimov said.
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Post by Warren » 02 Apr 2017, 10:38

That's the same thing Ahmadinejad said at Columbia University. Must be some sort of Muslim catechism.
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Post by nicole » 03 Apr 2017, 08:24

Explosions reported in St. Petersburg metro.
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