Oh Florida...

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Taktix® » 29 Aug 2018, 11:19

I think there's something really suspicious about the 2018 Florida gubernatorial primary.

Maybe it's what everyone says it is; a surprise primary victory for an African-american socialist (who didn't even come in 2nd in any polls and is already below-the-radar embroiled in corruption scandals) versus an equally-surprising victory for an over-the-top Trumpbot.

Something smells funny, like how wrong the polls were in Michigan and Wisconsin in 2016. I get that polls can be wrong, and increasingly so in the age of cellphones and caller ID.

But I'm just saying, if you wanted to manufacture the circumstances wherein an unabashed Trump fanboy like DeSantis could get elected governor, this is how it would look...
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Post by Painboy » 29 Aug 2018, 12:22

It's an off-cycle election so many voters stay home leaving the more rabid ones to vote which increases the likelihood centrist candidates will lose. This was basically the playbook for the initial Tea Party candidates. The Tea Party figured out that they could get more policy-friendly candidates by concentrating on the primaries instead of the general election. It wouldn't surprise me that elements of the left have figured this out as well.

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Post by thoreau » 29 Aug 2018, 12:28

I would be surprised if elements of the left figured out anything ever.
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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Taktix® » 29 Aug 2018, 12:38

Painboy wrote:It's an off-cycle election so many voters stay home leaving the more rabid ones to vote which increases the likelihood centrist candidates will lose. This was basically the playbook for the initial Tea Party candidates. The Tea Party figured out that they could get more policy-friendly candidates by concentrating on the primaries instead of the general election. It wouldn't surprise me that elements of the left have figured this out as well.
Perhaps, but it's been reported that this was the highest turnout for a midterm since 2002 (a.k.a. the 1st election since 9/11).

Just to be clear, I was implying that a fix was in...

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Painboy » 29 Aug 2018, 13:23

Taktix® wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 12:38
Painboy wrote:It's an off-cycle election so many voters stay home leaving the more rabid ones to vote which increases the likelihood centrist candidates will lose. This was basically the playbook for the initial Tea Party candidates. The Tea Party figured out that they could get more policy-friendly candidates by concentrating on the primaries instead of the general election. It wouldn't surprise me that elements of the left have figured this out as well.
Just to be clear, I was implying that a fix was in...
Which is why I responded with a scenario a bit more probable. :)

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Taktix® » 29 Aug 2018, 13:36

Painboy wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 13:23
Taktix® wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 12:38
Painboy wrote:It's an off-cycle election so many voters stay home leaving the more rabid ones to vote which increases the likelihood centrist candidates will lose. This was basically the playbook for the initial Tea Party candidates. The Tea Party figured out that they could get more policy-friendly candidates by concentrating on the primaries instead of the general election. It wouldn't surprise me that elements of the left have figured this out as well.
Just to be clear, I was implying that a fix was in...
Which is why I responded with a scenario a bit more probable. :)
I'm hard-pressed to accept low turnout as a probable explanation when there was not, in fact, low turnout:

https://www.wkrg.com/news/northwest-flo ... 1403899609

Also, there were reports of hacking dry runs minor technical glitches throughout the state:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politi ... story.html
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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Painboy » 29 Aug 2018, 16:34

Taktix® wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 13:36
Painboy wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 13:23
Taktix® wrote:
29 Aug 2018, 12:38
Painboy wrote:It's an off-cycle election so many voters stay home leaving the more rabid ones to vote which increases the likelihood centrist candidates will lose. This was basically the playbook for the initial Tea Party candidates. The Tea Party figured out that they could get more policy-friendly candidates by concentrating on the primaries instead of the general election. It wouldn't surprise me that elements of the left have figured this out as well.
Just to be clear, I was implying that a fix was in...
Which is why I responded with a scenario a bit more probable. :)
I'm hard-pressed to accept low turnout as a probable explanation when there was not, in fact, low turnout:

https://www.wkrg.com/news/northwest-flo ... 1403899609

Also, there were reports of hacking dry runs minor technical glitches throughout the state:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politi ... story.html
It's still a low turn out compared to a ballot with a presidential election.

From the article:
Still turnout for a primary is low compared to what it will likely be in the general election.
So a larger midterm turnout just means there is a greater number of hyper-partisans voting than the last midterm. I imagine they're especially motivated this year with all of the Trump nonsense going on.

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Painboy » 10 Dec 2018, 13:51

FLORIDA MAN ARRESTED AFTER KOHL’S JOB INTERVIEW FOR ALLEGEDLY STEALING NIKE SHOES ‘AS GIFT FOR HIS MOTHER’

https://www.newsweek.com/kohls-dominick ... do-1251029

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Aresen » 10 Dec 2018, 15:18

Painboy wrote:
10 Dec 2018, 13:51
FLORIDA MAN ARRESTED AFTER KOHL’S JOB INTERVIEW FOR ALLEGEDLY STEALING NIKE SHOES ‘AS GIFT FOR HIS MOTHER’

https://www.newsweek.com/kohls-dominick ... do-1251029
You are supposed to wait until after you are hired before stealing from your employer.
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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Aresen » 12 Jan 2019, 16:26

If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

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Re: Oh Florida...

Post by Kwix » 09 May 2019, 20:54

It's a couple of months old but:
Florida mayor arrested after deputies shot at during raid on his home
A Florida mayor, who is suspected of practicing medicine without a license, was charged with two counts of attempted homicide Thursday after shooting at deputies who were serving a search warrant at his home, police said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fl ... me-n974286
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