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Re: Inequality

Post by Jadagul » 08 Jul 2019, 21:09

Dangerman wrote:
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In before: jadagul posts to let us know that, yes, this has already become a terrible problem for him.
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Re: Inequality

Post by dead_elvis » 08 Jul 2019, 21:50

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It was Town and Country. That's equivalent.
Eh, I don't really see it. If all I can afford is a chevy nova or a dress from Wal-Mart, I can still admire the mechanics of bleeding edge car tech or dresses from fashion week in Milan (knowing that similar stuff will end up in wall-mart 2 years later, or in consumer cars years later than that). Or tips and tricks from Martha Stewart or O that even the plebes can imitate. What I can't imagine anyone relating to is "international crisis is making my dinner party difficult" or "I'm fighting the patriarchy by paying your yearly salary for a dress". Aspirational things as a hobby loses its charm when it's that unrelateable. Or to take a stab at putting it another way, a magazine aiming for actual millionaires is going to miss the mark for temporarily embarrassed millionaires, as those are qualitatively, not quantitatively, different.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Jennifer » 08 Jul 2019, 21:59

dead_elvis wrote:
08 Jul 2019, 21:50
Warren wrote:
05 Jul 2019, 13:38


It was Town and Country. That's equivalent.
Eh, I don't really see it. If all I can afford is a chevy nova or a dress from Wal-Mart, I can still admire the mechanics of bleeding edge car tech or dresses from fashion week in Milan (knowing that similar stuff will end up in wall-mart 2 years later, or in consumer cars years later than that). Or tips and tricks from Martha Stewart or O that even the plebes can imitate. What I can't imagine anyone relating to is "international crisis is making my dinner party difficult"
Yes, this. There's a huge difference between "here's some cool cars or pretty dresses rich people are buying" and "oh no, this crisis for the plebes is causing mild annoyances for rich people trying to throw nice parties."
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Re: Inequality

Post by JasonL » 09 Jul 2019, 02:30

For some people the dream is of the dinner party not the car.

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Re: Inequality

Post by nicole » 09 Jul 2019, 09:13

JasonL wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 02:30
For some people the dream is of the dinner party not the car.
Yeah came to say this.
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Post by dhex » 09 Jul 2019, 10:48

town and country is a magazine for inspirational middle/upper middle classers, not actual millionaires.

source: me having had to deal with their fucking bonkers advertorial crew more than once bc board members are the WOOOOOOORRRRSSTTTTT [snare rush]
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Post by lunchstealer » 09 Jul 2019, 13:37

Inspirational or aspirational? The former being likely even worse than the latter.
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Post by Andrew » 09 Jul 2019, 14:08

The Aspirational 14%.
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Post by Aresen » 09 Jul 2019, 14:36

I've seen Town and Country magazine on the rack. My impression was that it would appeal to the worst sort of social climber.
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Re: Inequality

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Jul 2019, 14:48

Aresen wrote:
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I've seen Town and Country magazine on the rack. My impression was that it would appeal to the worst sort of social climber.
I don't know who buys magazines of any sort any longer, my wife aside, but the standard issue coffee table magazines for those of use still poor enough to care what's on the coffee table would be The New Yorker and Architectural Digest and, if we were also aspiring to be accepted by the intelligentsia, New York Review of Books. Town and Country is like Southern Living or any of the city specific magazines that help people furnish their houses like everyone else who reads the same magazines and, in the case of the city mags, 'discover' the new and trendy restaurants that are no longer new and trendy.

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Post by Shem » 09 Jul 2019, 15:07

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 14:48
but the standard issue coffee table magazines for those of use still poor enough to care what's on the coffee table would be The New Yorker and Architectural Digest and, if we were also aspiring to be accepted by the intelligentsia, New York Review of Books.
National Geographic seems more likely than Architectural Digest. And Reader's Digest ought to rate a mention as the magazine of the unselfconsciously middle class.
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Post by nicole » 09 Jul 2019, 15:53

Huh. I thought Readers Digest marked us out as not middle class.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Warren » 09 Jul 2019, 16:08

nicole wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:53
Huh. I thought Readers Digest marked us out as not middle class.
Is it still in print? RD was the midllest middle class what ever middled.
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Re: Inequality

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Jul 2019, 16:11

Warren wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:53
Huh. I thought Readers Digest marked us out as not middle class.
Is it still in print? RD was the midllest middle class what ever middled.
I thought it marked you out as not readers.

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Re: Inequality

Post by Aresen » 09 Jul 2019, 16:12

Warren wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:53
Huh. I thought Readers Digest marked us out as not middle class.
Is it still in print? RD was the midllest middle class what ever middled.
I would go with lower-middle class.

The middle-ist was National Geographic.
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Re: Inequality

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Jul 2019, 16:15

Aresen wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 16:12
Warren wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 15:53
Huh. I thought Readers Digest marked us out as not middle class.
Is it still in print? RD was the midllest middle class what ever middled.
I would go with lower-middle class.

The middle-ist was National Geographic.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Jasper » 09 Jul 2019, 16:22

Garden and Gun for those genteel southern types.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Shem » 09 Jul 2019, 18:24

TV Guide marks you as being older than Methuselah.
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Re: Inequality

Post by dead_elvis » 09 Jul 2019, 18:37

I thought Reader's Digest marked one as old, rural, anti-commie-crank, and likely a Paul Harvey listener.
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Re: Inequality

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Jul 2019, 18:38

Shem wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 18:24
TV Guide marks you as being older than Methuselah.
Reader's Digest ought to rate a mention marks you as a member of the unselfconsciously middle class.

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Re: Inequality

Post by dhex » 09 Jul 2019, 21:34

My Maga chud in laws got a sub for readers digest for my nine year old. He prefers ask and of course click.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 21:50

I was fucking obsessed with Reader's Digest when I was 11-13 years old. My mom would hide it from me to try to make me do my chores and I'd ferret it out no matter where she stashed it. I can still quote jokes and lines from articles, verbatim.

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Post by thoreau » 09 Jul 2019, 22:12

My grandparents--college-educated FDR Democrats and middle-class professionals (a salesman and a nurse)--subscribed to it and I read it all the time as a kid.
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Re: Inequality

Post by Warren » 09 Jul 2019, 22:25

My grandmother subscribed to their book club. That's were I was introduced to great classics like A Tale of a City, The Ordinary Case of Dr. Jekyll, and Little Woman.
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