Does Elon's Musk stink?

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 09 Nov 2018, 08:22

Jadagul wrote:
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And as an engineer, he's a brilliant publicist.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 25 Feb 2019, 20:03

The SEC has asked a judge to hold Elon Musk in contempt for violating his settlement with the agency
The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission asked a judge to hold Elon Musk in contempt for violating his October 16 settlement with the agency.

Bloomberg News reported the news a bit ago. We’ve since obtained the agency’s complaint, though it is declining comment.

Tesla has yet to respond to our requests for more information.

At the crux of things: Last Tuesday night, Musk tweeted out to his 24 million followers that Tesla would make around 500,000 cars this year, correcting himself hours later to clarify that he meant the company would be producing at an annualized rate of 500,000 vehicles by year’s end.

The next morning, Tesla announced that its general counsel, Dane Butswinkas, is leaving after just months on the job.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 23 Apr 2019, 12:32

Any other car than a Tesla in 3 years will be like ‘owning a horse’
“The fundamental message that consumers should be taking today is that it’s financially insane to buy anything other than a Tesla, ” the CEO of the electric auto maker said after Monday’s robotaxi announcement. “It would be like owning a horse in three years. I mean, fine if you want to own a horse. But you should go into it with that expectation.”
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Highway » 23 Apr 2019, 13:42

More and more, every word out of Musk's mouth seems like blatant and transparent attempts to try to convince people to prop up his failing car company, without Tesla actually doing anything that would make their cars not be old, tired designs with bad quality control. The continual vaporware announcements, the constant defensiveness, the severe contraction in the company, the bluster, the railing against shorting it's stock.

Musk is increasingly desperate, and he can't figure out how to have SpaceX fraudulently buy up Tesla, the way that Tesla fraudulently bought up SolarCity.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by tr0g » 23 Apr 2019, 13:51

Somebody posted a video pf exploding batteries today. This is a known issue with rechargeable battery tech, and has known solutions. But Tesla just can't seem to figure this out. Everything on the chassis and body side has known solutions, too, but I guess they don't want to hire guys from Detroit to help with that because they'd rather reinvent the wheel poorly.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by thoreau » 23 Apr 2019, 13:54

But they want to DISRUPT!!11! You can't DISRUPT!!11! if you are learning from other people.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 23 Apr 2019, 14:08

thoreau wrote:
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But they want to DISRUPT!!11! You can't DISRUPT!!11! if you are learning from other people.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Mo » 25 May 2019, 15:16

OFFS. This is dumb even by Musk’s standards.

https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-says-hyp ... 1835024474
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Painboy » 25 May 2019, 15:29

Mo wrote:
25 May 2019, 15:16
OFFS. This is dumb even by Musk’s standards.

https://jalopnik.com/elon-musk-says-hyp ... 1835024474
I would have loved to be a fly on wall to observe how the original vision got talked down to this. What were the mental gymnastics needed to convince themselves that this was worthy of a press release and not something that should have just been quietly killed off?

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Ellie » 25 May 2019, 17:31

WOW.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Highway » 26 Aug 2019, 19:17

Maybe the cracks in the empire are really glaring if Vanity Fair is ready to excoriate Musk.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Painboy » 26 Aug 2019, 19:45

Highway wrote:
26 Aug 2019, 19:17
Maybe the cracks in the empire are really glaring if Vanity Fair is ready to excoriate Musk.
Yeah I had been reading about SolarCity the last few months. Sounds like a mess.

As far as Musk goes, he might be enviro friendly with his cars, but he's still a tech bro and perception wise they are turning into the modern day Robber Barons. Throw in some tax payer funded corporate boondoggles and any good will is likely gone.

I'm also curious if local governments are ever going to stop said tax payer funded corporate boondoggles. How many of these things have to implode before enough is enough?

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 26 Aug 2019, 19:53

Painboy wrote:
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I'm also curious if local governments are ever going to stop said tax payer funded corporate boondoggles. How many of these things have to implode before enough is enough?
I see zero indication that whenever one of them goes under anybody questions the fundamental soundness of using tax dollars to get what you want from corporations. There's just the autopsy to look for the particular corprate cancer that corrupted this boondoggle.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 26 Aug 2019, 20:02

Warren wrote:
26 Aug 2019, 19:53
Painboy wrote:
26 Aug 2019, 19:45
I'm also curious if local governments are ever going to stop said tax payer funded corporate boondoggles. How many of these things have to implode before enough is enough?
I see zero indication that whenever one of them goes under anybody questions the fundamental soundness of using tax dollars to get what you want from corporations. There's just the autopsy to look for the particular corprate cancer that corrupted this boondoggle.
This. Politicians just want to wave the 'job creation' flag and will continue to throw taxpayer money at con men.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Mo » 28 Aug 2019, 08:31

The king of all boondoggles is the Wisconsin Foxconn deal. The ‘beauty’ for politicians is that when they go sour, they’re someone else’s problem. Though Foxconn was so bad that if Walker won last fall he’d have to suck it up.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by JasonL » 28 Aug 2019, 09:11

Jerbs not campaign finance are the primary vector for political influence. Whether you see this as unreasonable in a democracy kinda depends on how you view the desperation of the voting public to get jerbs in their area. I don't think it's notably undemocratic because I think for a great many politicians, when they go home the essential message is "fck everything else do everything humanly possible to get more jobs here", and they respond to that pressure. It's not "good", but it is probably pretty much what democracy is going to look like.

ETA: yes this is another installment in my ever expanding series "things look like this because this is what people want".

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Hugh Akston » 08 Oct 2019, 17:54

Elon Musk fabricated allegations about a British cave rescuer he called a “pedo guy” and oversaw the attempted leak of that unproven information to the press, according to a set of stunning accusations in an ongoing defamation lawsuit against the Tesla Motors and SpaceX CEO.
Last month, Musk’s legal team filed to have Unsworth’s suit dismissed on the grounds that the Tesla chief executive did not initially mean for “pedo guy” to be taken factually and that he was simply asking questions when he hired a private investigator to look into Unsworth. The cave rescuer is seeking at least $75,000 in compensatory damages and unspecified punitive damages to be determined by a court.
Musk, in recent statements submitted to the court, claimed that those statements were made based on information provided to one of his employees by a contracted private investigator. Unsworth’s lawyers dispute this, claiming that the investigator — who BuzzFeed News revealed to be a convicted fraudster named James Howard-Higgins — never expressed to Jared Birchall, the head of Musk’s family office tasked with communicating with the investigator, that Unsworth’s Thai partner was 12 years old when they supposedly married.
Beyond the investigator’s basic background research for which he was paid $52,000, Birchall also offered Howard-Higgins a $10,000 bonus “for successful confirmation of nefarious behavior” and asked that the hired gun help orchestrate a leak campaign about Unsworth in the UK and Australian press. Using email addresses with the names “bangkokjohn” and “bangkokhilton,” Howard-Higgins messaged journalists at places like the Sun with an email template composed by Birchall about Thailand as “the world capital of pedophilia” and Unsworth’s supposed meetups with teenagers.

“We would like you to immediately move forward with ‘leaking’ this information to the UK press,” Birchall wrote to Howard-Higgins around Aug. 28, 2018. “Obviously must be done very carefully.”
Musk similarly admits that he was duped by the Howard-Higgins, the supposed private investigator. Having emailed Musk and his employees out of the blue with a promise to dig up dirt on Unsworth, Howard-Higgins was hired with little due diligence and without an examination of a criminal past that included defrauding past business partners out of more than $500,000.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 08 Oct 2019, 23:17

Hugh Akston wrote:
08 Oct 2019, 17:54
Musk calls himself “a fucking idiot”
I'll concede that point.
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