Does Elon's Musk stink?

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 16 Jul 2018, 17:49

Hugh Akston wrote:
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Between the outsize personality and the love of Rube Goldbergesque plots, I feel like Elon Musk is one bad day away from winding up as a Bond villain.
Fortunately his solar-powered death ray won't work as advertised.
However, a ride on a Hyperloop will serve the purpose.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 16 Jul 2018, 17:52

Jadagul wrote:
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Musk has always been an overpromising asshole.
True, but his recent Trumpesqueian twitter fits have a 'Working twenty hours every day just to keep the lid on this thing a little while longer. If I could only just... FUCK FUCK FUCK' vibe to em.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Jadagul » 16 Jul 2018, 18:26

Warren wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 17:52
Jadagul wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 16:57
Musk has always been an overpromising asshole.
True, but his recent Trumpesqueian twitter fits have a 'Working twenty hours every day just to keep the lid on this thing a little while longer. If I could only just... FUCK FUCK FUCK' vibe to em.
Yeah. I think right now we're seeing the wheels come off as more people realize he's an overpromising asshole.

It's kind of a relief for people to finally notice, rather than thinking I'm crazy for not being impressed.

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by JD » 17 Jul 2018, 11:06

Jadagul wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 18:26
Warren wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 17:52
Jadagul wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 16:57
Musk has always been an overpromising asshole.
True, but his recent Trumpesqueian twitter fits have a 'Working twenty hours every day just to keep the lid on this thing a little while longer. If I could only just... FUCK FUCK FUCK' vibe to em.
Yeah. I think right now we're seeing the wheels come off as more people realize he's an overpromising asshole.

It's kind of a relief for people to finally notice, rather than thinking I'm crazy for not being impressed.
I've always wanted to meet Musk so that I could lavish praise and admiration on him for his amazing achievements and business genius...capping it off by revealing I'm only talking about PayPal.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Jasper » 17 Jul 2018, 12:25

Jennifer wrote:
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Haha you know that's a former H&R commenter right
And a former Gryllperson, to the forum's eternal chagrin.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by thoreau » 17 Jul 2018, 12:29

Jasper wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 12:25
Jennifer wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 15:48
nicole wrote:
16 Jul 2018, 15:43
Haha you know that's a former H&R commenter right
And a former Gryllperson, to the forum's eternal chagrin.
Yes, I know who it is. ffs.
Ken Shultz? Randian? Dan T.?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Ellie » 17 Jul 2018, 12:39

Spoiler: it's David Watkins

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Mo » 17 Jul 2018, 16:59

I love how his Boring Company thing in Chicago moves as many people in an hour as a single subway car carries.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Mo » 17 Jul 2018, 17:01

Highway wrote:
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Highway wrote:
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Musk is showing all the signs of coming apart.
He totally is. And so are his companies. Apparently Tesla Solar (nee SolarCity) is really tanking, and was tanking before being "bought out" by Tesla. Tesla cars is also now losing their per vehicle subsidy (since they've sold enough vehicles), and there's still a lot of skepticism about their actual construction, with them "certifying" 5000 cars in one week by constructing them in tents and certifying #5000 at 4 AM on Sunday. Noone will be surprised if they drop back down under 3000 cars per week for an indefinite future. Basically, all of Musk's promises are coming back to him, and there's less excuse making that's got traction now.
Musk has always been an overpromising asshole. Both Hyperloop and the Boring Company are things that basically can't work. It's not quite to the level of "I'm going to found a company to design a perpetual motion machine. Some haters doubt me, but I believe in the power of technology and engineering ingenuity." But it's close.

Tesla and SpaceX are both things that actually could be done, so they were more successful. But Tesla is now at the point where the main challenges are boring grunt work like hammering out a supply chain and optimizing the assembly line by .2%. And that doesn't seem to be what Musk is interested in in any way.
Yeah, the thing has always been that he promises stuff that nobody could deliver on, then when he doesn't deliver on half of it, it's "Well, nobody could do that." But his problems have been that he's promised things that 1) other companies do and 2) are things that his companies definitely NEED to do. 5000 cars per week is a huge one. And he's now been putting that off for about a year, and distracting people with "Hey look, a flamethrower! Hey look, a semi-truck! Hey look, a new roadster!" But now the real money behind his company is starting to be like "Hey, that's all cool, but where's my car? Where's my profitability? And that completely self-serving SolarCity move did NOT help his reputation among those folks at all. Everyone saw it for what it was: A bailout of his badly failing company by his not-yet-failing company to (not really) hide the fact that it was failing.
Come on, no one has figured out how to mass produce cars yet.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Andrew » 18 Jul 2018, 00:42

I occasionally forget that Tesla is a borderline scam since there are so many Model S sedans on the road here. If 50% of the US sales are California, Phoenix must make up about 35% of sales. If I'm out and about, I see many of them.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Shem » 18 Jul 2018, 01:21

It really is a solid car, it's just being held hostage by the same "I'll get where I'm going by being an asshole, not by accommodating even a little bit" Silicon Valley spirit that's made Uber into such a tire fire. Perfect example; they spent all that time trying to fight dealerships because they didn't want to join the old guard. Which, to be fair, is a particularly stifling cartel system, especially on a local level. It's also a proven way to sell cars, something that the CEO of an auto manufacturing company should probably be interested in, especially when he's already got a million other battles he has to carry out to roll out an entirely new technology with pretty much no infrastructure. But nope, let's spend years fighting and wind up with a few dealerships in each state. He'd rather be known as a failure who took an old world down with him than as a success who made compromises when he had to. Hence, the Bond villain.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by JD » 23 Jul 2018, 11:06

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 23 Jul 2018, 15:19

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by JasonL » 23 Jul 2018, 15:24

That is some low rent sht. Even when Don did it he wasn't relying on repeat supply from same provider he stiffed.

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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by thoreau » 23 Jul 2018, 15:51

Look, all I want to do is drive a zero-emission Tesla, stop at a Theranos diagnostic center for some routine bloodwork on my way to work, then go sell real estate on a valuation commensurate with WeWork's market value per square foot. And use my earnings to buy a ticket into space so I can participate in a Space Opera fantasy.

Is that sort of future too much to ask for?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Warren » 23 Jul 2018, 18:35

thoreau wrote:
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Look, all I want to do is drive a zero-emission Tesla, stop at a Theranos diagnostic center for some routine bloodwork on my way to work, then go sell real estate on a valuation commensurate with WeWork's market value per square foot. And use my earnings to buy a ticket into space so I can participate in a Space Opera fantasy.

Is that sort of future too much to ask for?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Jennifer » 23 Jul 2018, 19:37

Ouch, I felt actual vicarious embarrassment reading that. "Hey, remember that money I paid you for goods and services rendered? Please give a bunch of it back so I can say I'm making a profit." WTF?

I feel like my snarky little summary there MUST be missing some fine point of business practice and acumen.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

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Warren wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 18:35
thoreau wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 15:51
Look, all I want to do is drive a zero-emission Tesla, stop at a Theranos diagnostic center for some routine bloodwork on my way to work, then go sell real estate on a valuation commensurate with WeWork's market value per square foot. And use my earnings to buy a ticket into space so I can participate in a Space Opera fantasy.

Is that sort of future too much to ask for?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Ellie » 23 Jul 2018, 21:14

*shows up in the thread with popcorn*
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by thoreau » 23 Jul 2018, 21:20

Warren wrote:
thoreau wrote:
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Look, all I want to do is drive a zero-emission Tesla, stop at a Theranos diagnostic center for some routine bloodwork on my way to work, then go sell real estate on a valuation commensurate with WeWork's market value per square foot. And use my earnings to buy a ticket into space so I can participate in a Space Opera fantasy.

Is that sort of future too much to ask for?
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I bought it off this guy by St. Mark's Place for $17.
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Shem » 23 Jul 2018, 21:54

Anybody care to start a pool on when Musk goes full MAGA hat?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

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Shem wrote:
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Anybody care to start a pool on when Musk goes full MAGA hat?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Kolohe » 23 Jul 2018, 22:57

Aresen wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:08
Shem wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:54
Anybody care to start a pool on when Musk goes full MAGA hat?
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Aresen » 24 Jul 2018, 00:13

Kolohe wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:57
Aresen wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:08
Shem wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:54
Anybody care to start a pool on when Musk goes full MAGA hat?
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I give up. What does "Inner felota ke" mean? (I have a feeling I am going to regret asking.)
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Re: Does Elon's Musk stink?

Post by Jasper » 24 Jul 2018, 11:34

Aresen wrote:
24 Jul 2018, 00:13
Kolohe wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:57
Aresen wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 22:08
Shem wrote:
23 Jul 2018, 21:54
Anybody care to start a pool on when Musk goes full MAGA hat?
MMGA - "Make Mars Great Again"
Inner felota ke.
I give up. What does "Inner felota ke" mean? (I have a feeling I am going to regret asking.)
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