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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 03 Oct 2019, 15:54

Warren wrote:
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Yes, Utah is every bit that fucked up. Worse yet, though Shem's suspicions may well be true, it's not anywhere close to the only state that fucked up.
No, but I think it's uniquely fucked up.
I would not disagree with that observation.

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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Jennifer » 03 Oct 2019, 15:54

Warren wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 15:37
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
02 Oct 2019, 23:03
Yes, Utah is every bit that fucked up. Worse yet, though Shem's suspicions may well be true, it's not anywhere close to the only state that fucked up.
No, but I think it's uniquely fucked up.
This. Like, there's plenty of states with fucked-up views about alcohol, but I don't know of any other state with laws similar to Utah's old "Zion curtains": basically, for places where it was legal to serve mixed drinks, it was NOT legal for the bartender to mix them in sight of customers -- the activity had to be hidden behind a barrier so nobody could see. (Even if you accept the idea "There's something inherently sinful or problematic about mixed alcoholic beverages," WTF is the rationale for thinking the badness will be mitigated somehow if you can't see what your bartender is doing? That would be like "fighting the obesity epidemic" by saying "Okay, places like Subway, Moe's Southwest Grill and Blaze Pizza can still sell their exact same made-to-order menus ... but the customers are no longer allowed to see the workers actually assemble their sandwiches, fajitas or pizzas. Such sinful activities MUST be hidden behind a curtain.")
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Mo » 03 Oct 2019, 18:23

Parliament, but with apes instead of people! Wow, Banksy is so edgy and thoughtful.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Warren » 03 Oct 2019, 19:50

Mo wrote:
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Parliament, but with apes instead of people! Wow, Banksy is so edgy and thoughtful.
Like you ever made anything someone would pay 12 megabucks for. :P
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Post by Eric the .5b » 03 Oct 2019, 19:59

Warren wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 19:50
Mo wrote:
03 Oct 2019, 18:23
Parliament, but with apes instead of people! Wow, Banksy is so edgy and thoughtful.
Like you ever made anything someone would pay 12 megabucks for. :P
That's the argument to the purse fallacy, isn't it? After all, whether people would pay for it has no bearing on whether it's edgy or thoughtful or any particular measure. People buy Jon McNaughton's paintings.
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Post by Aresen » 10 Oct 2019, 23:42

Fuck.

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Post by JD » 25 Oct 2019, 11:51

During its semi-annual "National Prescription Drug Take Back Day" the DEA is also collecting vaping devices, because VAPING R BAD, I guess.
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Post by Warren » 26 Oct 2019, 00:36

I mean, we could just not have a DEA tomorrow.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

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How?

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Post by Warren » 26 Oct 2019, 14:12

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How?
I took a license, sry. I'm saying that everything the DEA does, shouldn't be done. That there's not anything we'd have to have some other agency pick up the slack on if we just turned off the lights and closed the doors.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Aresen » 26 Oct 2019, 16:23

Warren wrote:
26 Oct 2019, 14:12
JasonL wrote:
26 Oct 2019, 11:23
How?
I took a license, sry. I'm saying that everything the DEA does, shouldn't be done. That there's not anything we'd have to have some other agency pick up the slack on if we just turned off the lights and closed the doors.
Turning off the lights and closing the doors is resisting. Stop resisting.
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Post by JD » 14 Nov 2019, 10:06

There was this incident in NYC a few days ago where the cops handcuffed this woman who was selling churros in the subway. Vending in the subway is technically illegal, but it's like jaywalking, one of those things that's technically illegal but you pretty much never see anyone get in trouble for, particularly if it's a little old lady selling churros who's been there for years. So there's been an uproar about the way the police handled it.

That's not the OFFS part. The OFFS part is the response of the NYC Public Advocate, Jumaane Williams, who said "To the folks who keep pushing back and speaking about how she had 10 summonses and she was doing something illegal: Just shut up."
Yeah, that's his response to people who disagree with him: "Shut up." How eloquent and responsive to the community. A regular Abraham Lincoln here.
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Post by nicole » 14 Nov 2019, 10:23

I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 14 Nov 2019, 11:19

No one is complaining about congestion in the subway.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by nicole » 14 Nov 2019, 11:31

I mean, in real life pretty much everyone is.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 14 Nov 2019, 11:37

I'll have to take your word on that, but congestion has nothing to do with the Churro Lady, and the people complaining are complaining about her harassment by the cops.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Aresen » 14 Nov 2019, 11:51

nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Can't you just push them onto the track?
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Post by Warren » 14 Nov 2019, 13:34

Aresen wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 11:51
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Can't you just push them onto the track?
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

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nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 14 Nov 2019, 19:20

JD wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:06
That's not the OFFS part. The OFFS part is the response of the NYC Public Advocate, Jumaane Williams, who said "To the folks who keep pushing back and speaking about how she had 10 summonses and she was doing something illegal: Just shut up."
Yeah, that's his response to people who disagree with him: "Shut up." How eloquent and responsive to the community. A regular Abraham Lincoln here.
"Just fuck off and die." was probably deemed too impolitic.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Warren » 15 Nov 2019, 10:00

Shem wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
Bwah? I don't do public transportation, but nicole's objection strikes me as reasonable and apt.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by JD » 15 Nov 2019, 10:02

Warren wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:00
Shem wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
Bwah? I don't do public transportation, but nicole's objection strikes me as reasonable and apt.
I don't understand the "apt" part, because nobody was talking about congestion in the subway, so nicole's comment kind of seemed to come out of nowhere.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Warren » 15 Nov 2019, 10:20

JD wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:02
Warren wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:00
Shem wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
Bwah? I don't do public transportation, but nicole's objection strikes me as reasonable and apt.
I don't understand the "apt" part, because nobody was talking about congestion in the subway, so nicole's comment kind of seemed to come out of nowhere.
Fair enough. I just meant that moseying up the stairs is apt if you were talking about congestion.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by nicole » 15 Nov 2019, 12:10

JD wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:02
Warren wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:00
Shem wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
Bwah? I don't do public transportation, but nicole's objection strikes me as reasonable and apt.
I don't understand the "apt" part, because nobody was talking about congestion in the subway, so nicole's comment kind of seemed to come out of nowhere.
A bunch of people trying to justify the arrest of the churro lady, including Bill DeBlasio, have talked about congestion in the subway.
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Hugh Akston » 15 Nov 2019, 12:34

nicole wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 12:10
JD wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:02
Warren wrote:
15 Nov 2019, 10:00
Shem wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 16:08
nicole wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 10:23
I hope all the people complaining about congestion in the subway are also planning to arrest everyone who walks around slowly staring at their phones. Bonus points for doing it as you walk up the stairs.
Are you also irked about people who make throwaway comments about the weather without donating money so Elon Musk can make a weather machine to take over Oaxaca and corner the world's supply of salvia?

Wait, don't bother to answer, that sounds right up your alley.
Bwah? I don't do public transportation, but nicole's objection strikes me as reasonable and apt.
I don't understand the "apt" part, because nobody was talking about congestion in the subway, so nicole's comment kind of seemed to come out of nowhere.
A bunch of people trying to justify the arrest of the churro lady, including Bill DeBlasio, have talked about congestion in the subway.
Right, but the reason she was arrested, and the reason subway vending is illegal in the first place, is that she was making money without giving the mob their cut.
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