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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 18:43
by Jennifer
Painboy wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 17:30
dhex wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 15:21
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwkz ... he-murders

"I'm a better person than a fictional asshole having a psychotic break"
Jeebus. What's sad is that actually could have been a decent article. Instead of beating off to his own wokeness he could have talked more about how the area had changed and why. That might have been interesting.
Even after reading comments such as these .... I was still caught off-guard by just how bad that article is.

If he can convince his bosses to expense-account trips to Europe, he can followup with "I walked the grounds of Hitler's original Nuremberg rally and did not become a raving Nazi at the end. Here's how I did it" and "After a Vlad Dracul-inspired walking tour of Wallachia, I did not run around impaling my still-living enemies on spikes."

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 18:50
by Aresen
Jennifer wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 18:43
"After a Vlad Dracul-inspired walking tour of Wallachia, I did not run around impaling my still-living enemies on spikes."
Personally, I do have the urge to do that sometimes. :twisted:

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 19:55
by dead_elvis
Seems to be the thing now with progs to mention Falling Down as the epitome of white male entitlement. I really don't remember being that into the movie except the bit about no longer serving breakfast. Is it really that controversial to be against fraud?

In a previous 'hood I started out trying to time my evening walk with the dog to stop by the grocery store 10-15 minutes before closing. Fuckers would have the doors locked already. Don't say you're closing at 8 when you really close at 7:45 lazy assholes, now I have no dinner.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 20:04
by Jennifer
dead_elvis wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 19:55
Seems to be the thing now with progs to mention Falling Down as the epitome of white male entitlement. I really don't remember being that into the movie except the bit about no longer serving breakfast. Is it really that controversial to be against fraud?

In a previous 'hood I started out trying to time my evening walk with the dog to stop by the grocery store 10-15 minutes before closing. Fuckers would have the doors locked already. Don't say you're closing at 8 when you really close at 7:45 lazy assholes, now I have no dinner.
I saw the movie again fairly recently -- as in, sometime since moving to Atlanta, so within two years -- but I also saw it when it was new (as in, just-now released on video so you can rent it at Blockbuster). But I remember that the TV commercials for the then-new movie gave the impression the guy would be a likable hero, a downtrodden underdog who finally Stands Up to the bullies; the one scene I remember from the commercial was the bit where the gang tries to mug him for his briefcase, he gives them a beatdown, and when they run away he calls after them "You forgot your briefcase!"

I also remember being at the video-rental store with a friend, about to rent that movie and watch it for the first time, and since I still thought his character would be "noble downtrodden guy fights back," I made some joke to my friend and the rental clerk about the guy being my hero. And of course the memory of that joke inspired multiple massive bouts of full-body cringing from me, as my friend and I watched the movie that night.

So anyway, I wonder if maybe some of those progs did not actually watch the movie, but only saw trailers, or a selection of cherry-picked scenes making him out to be the sympathetic good guy?

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 00:54
by Shem
dhex wrote:
17 Jul 2018, 15:21
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwkz ... he-murders

"I'm a better person than a fictional asshole having a psychotic break"
At least he got that D-Fens was the bad guy. I mean, Jesus Christ:

D-Fens- "I'm the bad guy?"
Cop- "Yeah. You're the bad guy."

Is literally an exchange in the movie. It's a better indictment of the entitled Trump voter than anything that's come out of Salon, and it was made 26 years ago.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 11:07
by JasonL
We Work will no longer allow you to expense any meals containing red meat, poultry, or pork. I first heard this story as a thing about their cafeteria, but it actually extends apparently to their expense policies, which takes a whtevs and turns it into OFFS.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/wework-meat-ban

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 11:58
by JD
JasonL wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 11:07
We Work will no longer allow you to expense any meals containing red meat, poultry, or pork. I first heard this story as a thing about their cafeteria, but it actually extends apparently to their expense policies, which takes a whtevs and turns it into OFFS.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/wework-meat-ban
Fuck those people. If you don't want to eat meat because of your personal beliefs, fine, but forcing all of your employees to comply with your particular hobbyhorse makes you a raging asshole.

And speaking of such things, one New Republic writer said (paraphrasing somewhat) "It's not like they're 'banning' meat, they're just not paying for you to eat it." Other people said, isn't that rather like Hobby Lobby's argument vis-a-vis birth control? To which the NR writer responded, "No, it's totally different, it would only be the same if Hobby Lobby would pay for some kinds of birth control but not others." To which people pointed out that is actually exactly what Hobby Lobby did... To her credit, she did then admit that she was going to have to rethink some things.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 12:03
by thoreau
Last I heard, WeWork wasn't profitable, and had a higher valuation per square foot of office space than other companies renting out office space.

But who needs profits when you can create buzz and distraction?

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 12:04
by thoreau
WeWork should offer Theranos tests as part of their health plan, and Teslas and Hyperloop as commute options.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 13:01
by nicole
JasonL wrote:
18 Jul 2018, 11:07
We Work will no longer allow you to expense any meals containing red meat, poultry, or pork. I first heard this story as a thing about their cafeteria, but it actually extends apparently to their expense policies, which takes a whtevs and turns it into OFFS.

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/wework-meat-ban
It's for the environment.

Bet they have paid maternity leave though.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 18 Jul 2018, 13:07
by Ellie
Hey now, one of those babies might grow up to be the scientist who invents a perpetual motion machine and saves us all from our dependence on fossil fuels!

OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 16:12
by Mo
Ah yes, the famously homogenous Swiss. With their four national languages. Not to mention everyone speaking another one that isn’t even an official language.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018 ... air/220749

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 22:39
by Aresen
Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2018, 16:12
Ah yes, the famously homogenous Swiss. With their four national languages. Not to mention everyone speaking another one that isn’t even an official language.

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2018 ... air/220749
I believe the Swiss 'homogeneity' he refers to is only skin deep.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 20 Jul 2018, 22:46
by Ellie
He should have said, "I love the Swiss, no homo."

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 14:50
by JD

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 15:17
by dead_elvis
Next up, a tax on bringing your own lunch.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 15:42
by Aresen
The notion that filling restaurants with people staring at their laptop screens will somehow 'improve local culture' is amusing.
dead_elvis wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:17
Next up, a tax on bringing your own lunch.
They probably discussed it, but decided to leave it out for now.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 15:43
by Jennifer
I saw that article (or another about the same issue) yesterday and it pissed me right the fuck off. Those supervisors sound like Ayn Rand villains -- and I used to think Ayn Rand villains sounded more like parodies of bad people, than actual bad people.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 19:57
by Jennifer
dead_elvis wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:17
Next up, a tax on bringing your own lunch.
Or a ban on microwave ovens in the office.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:03
by Aresen
Jennifer wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:43
I saw that article (or another about the same issue) yesterday and it pissed me right the fuck off. Those supervisors sound like Ayn Rand villains -- and I used to think Ayn Rand villains sounded more like parodies of bad people, than actual bad people.
I've been perversely amused for many years by the way in which so many public figures say and do things which seem like they are larping Ayn Rand villains.

"You didn't build that!" Is just the most famous example.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 20:10
by Jennifer
Aresen wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 20:03
Jennifer wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:43
I saw that article (or another about the same issue) yesterday and it pissed me right the fuck off. Those supervisors sound like Ayn Rand villains -- and I used to think Ayn Rand villains sounded more like parodies of bad people, than actual bad people.
I've been perversely amused for many years by the way in which so many public figures say and do things which seem like they are larping Ayn Rand villains.

"You didn't build that!" Is just the most famous example.
I facepalmed hard when Obama said that -- any presidential speechwriter in the Soundbite Era damned well should've known better -- but at least there was kind of a legitimate point there, however horribly it was worded. These fuckers in San Francisco can't even say that much.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 26 Jul 2018, 04:57
by Mo
Jennifer wrote:
dead_elvis wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:17
Next up, a tax on bringing your own lunch.
Or a ban on microwave ovens in the office.
Between burnt popcorn and reheated fish, I could get behind this.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 27 Jul 2018, 18:56
by Eric the .5b
Jennifer wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 20:10
Aresen wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 20:03
Jennifer wrote:
25 Jul 2018, 15:43
I saw that article (or another about the same issue) yesterday and it pissed me right the fuck off. Those supervisors sound like Ayn Rand villains -- and I used to think Ayn Rand villains sounded more like parodies of bad people, than actual bad people.
I've been perversely amused for many years by the way in which so many public figures say and do things which seem like they are larping Ayn Rand villains.

"You didn't build that!" Is just the most famous example.
I facepalmed hard when Obama said that -- any presidential speechwriter in the Soundbite Era damned well should've known better -- but at least there was kind of a legitimate point there, however horribly it was worded. These fuckers in San Francisco can't even say that much.
Yeah, but most of the point boils down to, "You didn't build this bit of infrastructure. A private contractor did, someone we paid with money we confiscated from private businesses and individuals."

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 16:45
by Hugh Akston
SC Judge awards jilted husband $8.8 million in damages from the guy who slept with his wife
Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson awarded Keith King more than $2.2 million in compensatory damages and three times that in punitive damages from Francisco Huizar III of San Antonio, Texas.

In the civil complaint filed in April 2017, King accused Huizar of criminal conversation, alienation of affection, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress and assault and battery.
North Carolina is one of a handful of states that let jilted spouses sue people for criminal conversation when the person has sex with a married person before separation, and for alienation of affection when “genuine love and affection” has been destroyed by the person.
We need laws like this in order to protect the institution of marriage, which is a crucial foundation for social stability and strong family values.
Keith King, who is 15 years older than his wife, controlled her access to money, manipulated her low self-esteem, brought porn into the relationship, looked through her phone every other week, put her to work without pay, and continued to schedule shows after she said it was too much work and she needed help with her daughter, Patrick said. He tracked her movements and insisted she keep her hair blond, and wear bikinis and high heels, Patrick said.

Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Posted: 28 Jul 2018, 16:49
by Jennifer
Hugh Akston wrote:
28 Jul 2018, 16:45
SC Judge awards jilted husband $8.8 million in damages from the guy who slept with his wife
Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson awarded Keith King more than $2.2 million in compensatory damages and three times that in punitive damages from Francisco Huizar III of San Antonio, Texas.

In the civil complaint filed in April 2017, King accused Huizar of criminal conversation, alienation of affection, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress and assault and battery.
North Carolina is one of a handful of states that let jilted spouses sue people for criminal conversation when the person has sex with a married person before separation, and for alienation of affection when “genuine love and affection” has been destroyed by the person.
We need laws like this in order to protect the institution of marriage, which is a crucial foundation for social stability and strong family values.
Keith King, who is 15 years older than his wife, controlled her access to money, manipulated her low self-esteem, brought porn into the relationship, looked through her phone every other week, put her to work without pay, and continued to schedule shows after she said it was too much work and she needed help with her daughter, Patrick said. He tracked her movements and insisted she keep her hair blond, and wear bikinis and high heels, Patrick said.
Clearly the wife is at fault here; had she been a better person, her poor husband wouldn't have been forced to be so cruel to her!