OFFS: The Forsakening

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Post by nicole » 06 Jul 2017, 12:16

The Chicago Police Department says it is conducting "a very comprehensive review" after the city experienced one of its most violent Fourth of July weekends in recent years, with at least 102 people shot between late Friday afternoon and early Wednesday.

"We're doing a debriefing," said chief police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. "The mood here is frustration."

The review will include an analysis of how "amateur fireworks" might have affected the ShotSpotter system, which captures audio of gunfire and attempts to pinpoint its location for quicker deployment of officers. The system is deployed in the Englewood and Harrison districts, traditionally among the city's most violent.
I mean...did we not see that coming?

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Post by Hugh Akston » 06 Jul 2017, 18:51

Like most dress code stories, this doesn't really rise to the level of OFFS so much as an eyeroll, but women are not allowed to wear sleeveless tops in the House chamber
Reporters weathering sweltering temperatures and high humidity in Washington D.C. have found themselves stuck outside due to nebulous and loosely-defined rules about "proper decorum" in the House chamber and Speaker's lobby.
A CBS News report that describes recent experiences of female reporters and women in Congress who wear tank tops, sleeveless dresses, and open-toed shoes to the House has nevertheless caused a reaction on social media, prompting many to draw comparisons to the dress code of the Handmaid's Tale.
That last bit is also eyeroll worthy. The reason this isn't in the feminisms thread is because
Inflammatory as it all sounds, it's nothing new. Women have always been required to cover their shoulders (and toes) on the House floor, just as men have been required to wear a coat and tie.
"Issues arise annually as D.C. heats up each spring/summer," reporter K. Tully McManus wrote on Twitter after the story was picked up by Jezebel. "The Speaker's Lobby decorum rules aren't (as far as I understand) unique to GOP leadership. I've only reported in the House under GOP ctrl."
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Post by nicole » 07 Jul 2017, 11:56

I would say at this point that it's risen well above OFFS to driving me to suicide territory.

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Exhibit B https://twitter.com/RonanFarrow/status/ ... 2305740801
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Post by thoreau » 07 Jul 2017, 12:13

Do men still have to wear long-sleeved shirts and ties? Yes? Then the ban on sleeveless tops isn't unfair to women. Might be silly, but it's hardly anti-female.

Here we are, with Donald Trump as President and a Republican Congress that has no concept of governance, and the left's go-to criticism is sexism. Not incompetent governance, not budgetary recklessness, not an utter lack of national security prowess. No, sexism. In a dress code. That isn't even unfair to women.

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Post by Warren » 07 Jul 2017, 12:16

thoreau wrote:Not incompetent governance, not budgetary recklessness, not an utter lack of national security prowess.
The left doesn't occupy any ground that it can attack on those fronts.
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Warren wrote:
thoreau wrote:Not incompetent governance, not budgetary recklessness, not an utter lack of national security prowess.
From what ground can the left attack on those fronts?
Everyone's favorite ground: Hypocritical un-self-awareness.
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thoreau wrote:
Warren wrote:
thoreau wrote:Not incompetent governance, not budgetary recklessness, not an utter lack of national security prowess.
From what ground can the left attack on those fronts?
Everyone's favorite ground: Hypocritical un-self-awareness.
Oh yes. Of course. Carry on.
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thoreau wrote:Do men still have to wear long-sleeved shirts and ties? Yes? Then the ban on sleeveless tops isn't unfair to women. Might be silly, but it's hardly anti-female.

Here we are, with Donald Trump as President and a Republican Congress that has no concept of governance, and the left's go-to criticism is sexism. Not incompetent governance, not budgetary recklessness, not an utter lack of national security prowess. No, sexism. In a dress code. That isn't even unfair to women.

Fuck. Identity. Politics.
Shirts, ties, and jackets.
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Post by nicole » 07 Jul 2017, 16:27

Please, won't someone stop the SLEEVE SHAMING https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/883389168876888064
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Post by MJGreen » 07 Jul 2017, 17:55

we get it Matt, you're an ally
Savage.

Guy seems incapable of saying "sorry, I got this wrong, but perhaps now we can talk about revising this dress code in the future."
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 07 Jul 2017, 20:33

thoreau wrote:Do men still have to wear long-sleeved shirts and ties? Yes? Then the ban on sleeveless tops isn't unfair to women. Might be silly, but it's hardly anti-female.
Washington is a very conservative place as far as appropriate attire is concerned. I'd be surprised if "open toed shoes" isn't being interpreted as sandals, although in my day women in positions of power in D.C. typically eschewed open toed shoes just as they did pant suits until HRC.

There being no such thing as a short sleeved dress shirt, I'm sure long sleeves remain de rigueur. Besides, if you're wearing a short sleeved shirt with a tie (thus masquerading as an engineer in the 1950s), you can't roll up your shirtsleeves to signify how hard you're working.

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Post by Mo » 07 Jul 2017, 20:59

If you want to talk about ridiculous sexist dress codes, IBM didn't allow women to wear pantsuits until sometime around 2004 (about a decade after Congress allowed them)
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Post by nicole » 07 Jul 2017, 21:11

My eyes can only roll so far. I've worked hourly jobs where I had to wear a skirt suit and hose. Some industries are conservative.
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Post by Mo » 07 Jul 2017, 21:34

You can convince me there are sexist dress codes, no sleeveless dresses where dudes have to wear jackets and ties ain't gonna do it.
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Post by thoreau » 08 Jul 2017, 01:43

Someone is going to defy the dress code, get in trouble, and run in 2018 on a platform of "Nevertheless, she persisted."

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Post by JD » 14 Jul 2017, 14:17

There was a series of acid attacks in London the other day, horrifying as acid attacks always are.

But the OFFS part is that, of course, as always, the immediate reaction from some quarters is "Let's ban things! Let's make it so you can't buy acid without a permit!" I swear there are some elements in Britain (and the US) who would make it necessary to have a permit to own anything more dangerous than a small plastic spoon.
Following an attack in June on 21-year-old aspiring model Resham Khan and her cousin Jameel Muhktar, a petition on Change.org demanding that the UK Parliament require individuals purchasing acid to hold a special license now has almost 370,000 signatures.
Mr Timms told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he was "most concerned about sulphuric acid" and that carrying a bottle without justification should be treated as an offence, like carrying a knife.

"We could certainly come up with arrangements that would allow people to use sulphuric acid in the normal way, perhaps with the benefit of a licence.

"But simply walking around the street with a bottle of sulphuric acid, that should be an offence," he said.

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Post by Jennifer » 15 Jul 2017, 22:21

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"'We're losing more people to the sweets than to the streets': why two black pastors are suing Coca-Cola"
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...Lamar and Delman Coates, pastor at Mt. Ennon Baptist Church in suburban Clinton, Maryland, claim soda marketing has made it harder to protect the health of their largely black, D.C.-based parishioners.

Their case is similar to another suit that was filed, and later withdrawn, last January by the same legal team in California.

The lawsuit marks a break with tradition for African-American and Latino community groups who have been reliable allies of Big Soda for years in policy fights nationwide -- despite overwhelming evidence that the harms of drinking soda disproportionately affect their communities.

Obesity, hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease and lower-extremity amputations are all far higher among people of color than among whites. These communities also drink more soda and are exposed to more soda advertising.

"It's become really clear to me that we're losing more people to the sweets than to the streets," said Coates, who said he has seen parishioners give bottles filled with sugary drinks to their infants. "There's a great deal of misinformation in our communities, and I think that's largely a function of these deceptive marketing campaigns."
Given how much influence pastors have over their parishioners, did it ever occur to this man to find a way to diplomatically tell these mothers why putting soda in their babies' bottles is a bad idea? Or did he decide it would be easier to sue Big Soda instead?

EDIT: Added link, after discovering that the "code" function on this new forum is NOT equivalent to the "URL" function on the old, for making hyperlinks. Oops.
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Post by lunchstealer » 15 Jul 2017, 23:38

What fucking marketing campaign had people put fucking cokes in baby bottles?

That's fucking insane. And if someone did put that in an ad campaign as some sort of ironic/absurdist joke, you'd have to be even more of an idiot to take nutritional advice from a coke ad.

The pastors need to sue the public school systems and possibly public health systems for not teaching some basic common sense, and then sue themselves for not slapping those bottles out of the hands of those idiot mothers (although I assume that they actually witnessed no such soda-for-babies bullshit and just made it up for dramatic effect.)

And the "URL" button is the one that looks like a pair of glasses tilted at a 45 degree angle. I assume it's supposed to be links in a chain.
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Post by Jennifer » 16 Jul 2017, 00:25

lunchstealer wrote:
15 Jul 2017, 23:38
What fucking marketing campaign had people put fucking cokes in baby bottles?

That's fucking insane. And if someone did put that in an ad campaign as some sort of ironic/absurdist joke, you'd have to be even more of an idiot to take nutritional advice from a coke ad.

The pastors need to sue the public school systems and possibly public health systems for not teaching some basic common sense, and then sue themselves for not slapping those bottles out of the hands of those idiot mothers (although I assume that they actually witnessed no such soda-for-babies bullshit and just made it up for dramatic effect.)

And the "URL" button is the one that looks like a pair of glasses tilted at a 45 degree angle. I assume it's supposed to be links in a chain.
I'm inclined to believe the "soda in baby bottles" story. I vaguely recall when "Britney Spears: human trainwreck" stories were still commonplace, there was one about how she was being investigated for fucking up the raising of her then-infant kid -- something about "she put soda in his bottle, then tried 'fixing' the resulting problems by asking her dentist to artificially whiten his teeth." But Spears, unlike the mothers in that guy's congregation, presumably did not have either some sensible friends (as opposed to yes-men entourage hangers-on) or a concerned pastor who could say "Look, I'm sure you love your kid, and want him to enjoy something tasty, but seriously -- soda should be a once-in-awhile treat, not a default beverage. And not in a baby bottle; at least wait until the kid graduates to sippy cups."

Do you remember some time ago when I complained about my literally-socialist friend who said something like "The free market is immoral because people prefer sugary snacks to healthy veggies?" These pastors remind me of him. Except even my friend never went so far as to file a lawsuit against companies who make sugary snacks.

Also: what is the "code" button actually for?
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Post by lunchstealer » 16 Jul 2017, 02:10

Use code for blocks of computer code, because it uses a fixed width font like code editing software uses.
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Post by thoreau » 16 Jul 2017, 02:23

Soda in baby bottles is also a redneck thing according to some news reports, and it's why the eugenicists were right.

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Post by nicole » 16 Jul 2017, 06:45

I mean, when I was little everyone got juice in their baby bottles and I remember my mom kind of finding out that was bad by the time my sister was little. In the States it was always apple juice but my UK cousins got Ribena. Mmmmmm.
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Post by Ellie » 16 Jul 2017, 09:26

lunchstealer wrote:
16 Jul 2017, 02:10
Use code for blocks of computer code, because it uses a fixed width font like code editing software uses.
Also ASCII art :D
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Post by lunchstealer » 16 Jul 2017, 11:14

Ellie wrote:
lunchstealer wrote:
16 Jul 2017, 02:10
Use code for blocks of computer code, because it uses a fixed width font like code editing software uses.
Also ASCII art :D
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Post by Warren » 16 Jul 2017, 11:25

My generation grew up on Wonder Bread and Hi-C. I'm not saying we turned out alright, but I am saying that people what call child services when they see someone feed their kid Oreos and milk that isn't certified organic and steroid-free, need to chill the fuck out.
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