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Post by Mo » 23 Nov 2018, 16:12

The onions futures provisions has a fascinating history. Some dude cornered the market on all onions both physically and in the future.

ETA: Is there some named "law" that for every crazy rule, there's an equally crazy story about why that rule exists?
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Hugh Akston » 04 Dec 2018, 22:08

What the fuck is this shit about closing the market and suspending mail delivery because Pharaoh died. This country deserves Donald Trump.
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Post by Aresen » 04 Dec 2018, 22:19

Hugh Akston wrote:
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What the fuck is this shit about closing the market and suspending mail delivery because Pharaoh died. This country deserves Donald Trump.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 05 Dec 2018, 14:11

Loyalty Officer Aresen once again proves his devotion to the Shemocracy.
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Post by Shem » 05 Dec 2018, 16:01

I've decided Shemocracy is the form of government. Shempire is the name of the polity.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 05 Dec 2018, 18:10

My apologies, m'lord.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 05 Dec 2018, 18:25

Officially, the Shemocratic Shempire of Shem.
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I think the level of power concentration I'm aiming for obligates me to make it the Shemocratic People's Shempire of Shem, or SPSS. It's a tradition thing.
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Post by Warren » 05 Dec 2018, 19:52

Shem wrote:
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I think the level of power concentration I'm aiming for obligates me to make it the Shemocratic People's Shempire of Shem, or SPSS. It's a tradition thing.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 05 Dec 2018, 19:57

Shem wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 19:31
I think the level of power concentration I'm aiming for obligates me to make it the Shemocratic People's Shempire of Shem, or SPSS. It's a tradition thing.
Stands to reason!
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Post by JD » 13 Dec 2018, 13:19

The NY City Council is considering making it illegal for businesses to not accept cash, because those useless assholes have never had an idea beyond "What can we ban today?": https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/11/29 ... -business/
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Post by Aresen » 13 Dec 2018, 16:40

JD wrote:
13 Dec 2018, 13:19
The NY City Council is considering making it illegal for businesses to not accept cash, because those useless assholes have never had an idea beyond "What can we ban today?": https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/11/29 ... -business/
Though I understand the reasons businesses don't want to accept cash, I really hate the practice.
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Post by Jennifer » 14 Dec 2018, 17:45

New York City Council member Ritchie Torres, who represents parts of the Bronx, proposed a bill Wednesday that would affect shops that currently only take electronic payments with credit and debit cards.

Torres says establishments that don’t accept cash could be discriminating against communities that have difficulty accessing credit cards. Violators would face fines of up to $250 for a first offense and up to $500 for additional violations.

The move takes aim at protecting minorities tend to be excluded from the “cashless revolution” trend.

“I started coming across coffee shops and cafés that were exclusively cashless and I thought: But what if I was a low-income New Yorker who has no access to a card?” Torres told the website Grub Street. “I thought about it more and realized that even if a policy seems neutral in theory, it can be racially exclusionary in practice.”
I definitely sympathize with this -- and FWIW, I REALLY REALLY hate the move to a cashless society, mainly for privacy and personal-liberty reasons -- but how likely is it that such upscale businesses are going to open in neighborhoods where most people can't afford credit cards? (And if you're low-income enough to lack access to a card, maybe pricey coffee shops and the like are places you're better off avoiding for your own financial well-being.)
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Post by JD » 17 Dec 2018, 14:14

Also, if you really need a credit-card-type-thing but can't or won't get a regular credit card, you can go buy a refillable gift card and fill it using cash. They sell those at every Rite Aid and such. And Torres is ignoring the fact that dealing with cash imposes real costs on merchants too - it draws robberies and fraud, and necessitates safes, making deposits, etc.

I personally have never, ever encountered a coffee shop or cafe that did not take cash. I'm aware that there are businesses like that, but I have never found one.
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Post by Aresen » 17 Dec 2018, 14:55

Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
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Post by Ellie » 17 Dec 2018, 15:03

I have run into way more cash-only places than no-cash places.
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Post by Highway » 17 Dec 2018, 15:05

Maybe this is a US thing, but the credit card companies are adamant that businesses not charge additional fees or higher prices for using a card. So I don't know that this is any worse than a shop that raises the price for cash customers to match their card price.
Aresen wrote:Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
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Post by Aresen » 17 Dec 2018, 15:40

Highway wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:05
Maybe this is a US thing, but the credit card companies are adamant that businesses not charge additional fees or higher prices for using a card. So I don't know that this is any worse than a shop that raises the price for cash customers to match their card price.
Aresen wrote:Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
I was thinking of the fees that banks charge at their end. You have X many transactions per month on your account. After X transactions, the bank charges you a fee for every cheque, withdrawal or debit transaction.

(Of course, when I used to own a chunk of bank shares, I thought it was great!!! ["Dividends! Dividends!! Pump that bottom line!"])
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Post by Warren » 17 Dec 2018, 15:51

Highway wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:05
Maybe this is a US thing, but the credit card companies are adamant that businesses not charge additional fees or higher prices for using a card. So I don't know that this is any worse than a shop that raises the price for cash customers to match their card price.
Aresen wrote:Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
Yeah no. There are places where you get a "cash discount". Also plenty of places that won't take a card for less than X (usually around $3.00)
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Post by Kolohe » 17 Dec 2018, 17:58

It used to only be gas stations (and that's getting rarer).

Some small businesses will encourage cash as part of their small business charm, but an actual discount is rare in my experience.

(Though to be clear, the guys really fighting the swipe fees through legal action are the Walmarts and Targets of the world)
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Re: OFFS: The Forsakening

Post by Highway » 17 Dec 2018, 18:12

Warren wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:51
Highway wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:05
Maybe this is a US thing, but the credit card companies are adamant that businesses not charge additional fees or higher prices for using a card. So I don't know that this is any worse than a shop that raises the price for cash customers to match their card price.
Aresen wrote:Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
Yeah no. There are places where you get a "cash discount". Also plenty of places that won't take a card for less than X (usually around $3.00)
Yeah, and they are in violation of the terms of the merchant's agreement to accept credit cards. Most places don't get stopped from doing it, but it's still not something that the credit card company wants to happen.
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Post by JD » 17 Dec 2018, 18:13

Kolohe wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 17:58
Some small businesses will encourage cash as part of their small business charm, but an actual discount is rare in my experience.
For values of "small business charm" equalling "pocketing the cash and not reporting it for sales tax", in my experience!

And $3?! Around here most places don't like to take a card for less than $10!
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Post by Warren » 17 Dec 2018, 18:16

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Post by Jadagul » 17 Dec 2018, 19:39

Aresen wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:40
Highway wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:05
Maybe this is a US thing, but the credit card companies are adamant that businesses not charge additional fees or higher prices for using a card. So I don't know that this is any worse than a shop that raises the price for cash customers to match their card price.
Aresen wrote:Another peeve I have with 'no cash' places is the transaction fees bank charge. A $2.00 coffee is suddenly $2.75.
I was thinking of the fees that banks charge at their end. You have X many transactions per month on your account. After X transactions, the bank charges you a fee for every cheque, withdrawal or debit transaction.

(Of course, when I used to own a chunk of bank shares, I thought it was great!!! ["Dividends! Dividends!! Pump that bottom line!"])
I've only ever seen that on savings accounts, not checking accounts.

And definitely never on credit cards.

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Post by dead_elvis » 23 Dec 2018, 17:34

Et tu Canada?

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According to police, someone called the police to report a possible active shooter in the airport at approximately 1:45 p.m, just before the orchestra was about to perform.

After an investigation, the Calgary Police reported that a band was playing at the airport, and there was no threat.

A video posted to Twitter by user Mike Nishizaki showed the panic that followed.

Three officers are seen in the video running down a corridor shouting at travellers, “back, back, back, now!”

The video then shows the camera back running down the hallway. A person is heard on the video saying “I think there’s a shooter.”
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