My argument would be that their intransigence on cost containment through insurers combined with their lobbying to get legal barriers to entry constitute a large reason why many people think the only answer is single payer. Docs in single payer regimes aren't less greedy, they just have no choices. Or, they might actually be less greedy given that they came up in a system that had these caps in place.fyodor wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 17:08Absolutely ask questions. Just color me skeptical if one claims that the answer is that American providers are greedier, er, more inclined to scare grandma, than providers elsewhere.JasonL wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 15:35If you perceive that the total cost of american healthcare is too high and you note that rates paid to providers are stunningly large compared to rates paid anywhere else in the world and you observe that the largest reason insurance has been unable to contain payments is the efforts of providers in both the political space and the scaring grandma space, I think it is entirely reasonable to ask questions when providers directly refute accountability for costs with "we shouldn't have to care about costs".
Agree with Sandy that the innovation argument is about returns for investors in new stuff - pharma, biotech, devices and technology. Not delivery per se.