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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Mo » 18 Oct 2018, 12:48

I prefer DST, I just don't like having to go back to standard time.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 18 Oct 2018, 13:36

Yeah I'm the reverse. I can't wait for the time change, it's stupidly dark in the morning already.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jadagul » 18 Oct 2018, 16:04

I never remember which way I prefer; I just want the sun down as early as possible.

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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Aresen » 18 Oct 2018, 16:08

Mo wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:48
I prefer DST, I just don't like having to go back to standard time.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by JasonL » 18 Oct 2018, 16:13

People be like "experiencing a one time zone trip twice a year is the worst thing in the whole world".

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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 18 Oct 2018, 16:22

Which makes literally zero sense because one of those times it literally gives you an extra hour of weekend

What kind of freak doesn't celebrate that
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jennifer » 18 Oct 2018, 16:58

Lately when Jeff gets home from work a bit before 6:30 in the morning, it's still full dark outside. (Or, if the eastern sky is lightening, it's not visible from my windows.) Thing is, the school bus comes to pick up various kids a few minutes before he gets home. Which has to be TERRIBLE for the kids -- not just the safety issues of waiting outside, in full dark, in a not-very-nice neighborhood, but also, it MUST run polar opposite to how their circadian rhythms work -- they're waking up and starting their day in what's effectively the middle of the night.

After the clocks change, the kids will at least be able to wait for the bus in daylight (though they'll probably still have to wake up in full darkness.)
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jake » 18 Oct 2018, 17:30

nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:41
Mo wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 11:48
I don't think anyone here is pro DST
I thought I was the only one who was anti DST
I'm fervently anti DST.* And I make too big a deal about it. :)

EDIT: Actually, I'm anti the switch back and forth. Pick one -- either one -- and stick with it. Everything else is a deadweight loss.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2018, 17:48

tr0g wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:15
Aresen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 10:58
Whole council meetings spent on abortion, daylight savings time, and the oxford comma.
At least while we're pedanting out on the oxford comma, we're not passing legislation.

Also, mayo is both a condiment and an ingredient and infinitely superior to Miracle Whip.
That's true 99% of the time...except with bologna. I don't know why, but Miracle Whip is just better on a bologna sandwich.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2018, 18:03

Jennifer wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 16:58
After the clocks change, the kids will at least be able to wait for the bus in daylight (though they'll probably still have to wake up in full darkness.)
Or they could just schedule that shit during the day.

Also, I will filibuster at length about why we should go for a hybrid Swatch .beats/neo-wadokei local solar time system. 6am will be dawn every day, 6pm will be sunset every day. (Or, using the system I suggested, 0d and 0n.)

I will drag in a frickin' 18th century Japanese clock and show it off, yielding my time to a expert I bring in on the subject.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Pham Nuwen » 18 Oct 2018, 18:33

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 17:48
tr0g wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:15
Aresen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 10:58
Whole council meetings spent on abortion, daylight savings time, and the oxford comma.
At least while we're pedanting out on the oxford comma, we're not passing legislation.

Also, mayo is both a condiment and an ingredient and infinitely superior to Miracle Whip.
That's true 99% of the time...except with bologna. I don't know why, but Miracle Whip is just better on a bologna sandwich.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2018, 19:16

Pham Nuwen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:33
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 17:48
tr0g wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:15
Aresen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 10:58
Whole council meetings spent on abortion, daylight savings time, and the oxford comma.
At least while we're pedanting out on the oxford comma, we're not passing legislation.

Also, mayo is both a condiment and an ingredient and infinitely superior to Miracle Whip.
That's true 99% of the time...except with bologna. I don't know why, but Miracle Whip is just better on a bologna sandwich.
To the camp with you! Go on!
To the camp? You're the one trying to get us to Oregon.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Pham Nuwen » 18 Oct 2018, 20:30

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 19:16
Pham Nuwen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:33
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 17:48
tr0g wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:15
Aresen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 10:58
Whole council meetings spent on abortion, daylight savings time, and the oxford comma.
At least while we're pedanting out on the oxford comma, we're not passing legislation.

Also, mayo is both a condiment and an ingredient and infinitely superior to Miracle Whip.
That's true 99% of the time...except with bologna. I don't know why, but Miracle Whip is just better on a bologna sandwich.
To the camp with you! Go on!
To the camp? You're the one trying to get us to Oregon.
Camp. Now.

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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jennifer » 18 Oct 2018, 21:41

Just got back from casting early votes (assuming they'll even be counted, thanks to Georgia's utterly insane "all-electronic ballots with no paper trail" system), and I kinda wanna soak in a cleansing vat of Lysol after having cast my first straight-Dem ballot since ... um ... ever. But for all the Democrats' many many MANY flaws, at least they're not the Openly White Supremacist Party, which the contemporary GOP is. And unlike the libertarians, the Dems are the only ones with even a hypothetical chance of beating the Klansmen Without Robes party, so ... ugh.

(Georgia Republicans are especially corrupt; they're not even trying to hide their voter-suppression tactics. The Republican Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, is also the Republican gubernatorial candidate, and also the guy responsible for kicking something like 20 percent of all registered voters off the rolls in the past few years -- by an amazing coincidence, the overwhelming majority of the disenfranchised have "non-white" names. Kemp is also the guy who recently tried closing seven out of nine voting precincts in a majority-black district, backing down only after getting unwanted national-media attention. They're not even pretending to care about lowercase-d democratic principles anymore.)
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2018, 22:12

Pham Nuwen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 20:30
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 19:16
Pham Nuwen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:33
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 17:48
tr0g wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 12:15
Aresen wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 10:58
Whole council meetings spent on abortion, daylight savings time, and the oxford comma.
At least while we're pedanting out on the oxford comma, we're not passing legislation.

Also, mayo is both a condiment and an ingredient and infinitely superior to Miracle Whip.
That's true 99% of the time...except with bologna. I don't know why, but Miracle Whip is just better on a bologna sandwich.
To the camp with you! Go on!
To the camp? You're the one trying to get us to Oregon.
Camp. Now.

Shut the gate behind you as well. The world can't heal til you and your blasphemies are lost to history.
Fine, fine, moving to Oregon...
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Mo » 19 Oct 2018, 05:25

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:03
Also, I will filibuster at length about why we should go for a hybrid Swatch .beats/neo-wadokei local solar time system. 6am will be dawn every day, 6pm will be sunset every day. (Or, using the system I suggested, 0d and 0n.)
Jesus Christ, what a shitshow that would be. Longer workdays in the summer, shorter in the winter. Different workdays depending on how far north you are.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Kolohe » 19 Oct 2018, 14:02

Mo wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 05:25
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:03
Also, I will filibuster at length about why we should go for a hybrid Swatch .beats/neo-wadokei local solar time system. 6am will be dawn every day, 6pm will be sunset every day. (Or, using the system I suggested, 0d and 0n.)
Jesus Christ, what a shitshow that would be. Longer workdays in the summer, shorter in the winter. Different workdays depending on how far north you are.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 19 Oct 2018, 21:41

Mo wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 05:25
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:03
Also, I will filibuster at length about why we should go for a hybrid Swatch .beats/neo-wadokei local solar time system. 6am will be dawn every day, 6pm will be sunset every day. (Or, using the system I suggested, 0d and 0n.)
Jesus Christ, what a shitshow that would be. Longer workdays in the summer, shorter in the winter. Different workdays depending on how far north you are.
Yes! We would safely hobble the Canadians and Scandinavians during winters—as well as give opportunities to Southern hemisphere countries during the northern winter. But, as mentioned, like all time zone systems, it falls down near the poles.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Aresen » 19 Oct 2018, 23:06

Eric the .5b wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 21:41
Yes! We would safely hobble the Canadians and Scandinavians during winters—as well as give opportunities to Southern hemisphere countries during the northern winter. But, as mentioned, like all time zone systems, it falls down near the poles.
In the dark, you can't see the Canadians coming....
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Warren » 20 Oct 2018, 01:09

Eric the .5b wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 21:41
Mo wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 05:25
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2018, 18:03
Also, I will filibuster at length about why we should go for a hybrid Swatch .beats/neo-wadokei local solar time system. 6am will be dawn every day, 6pm will be sunset every day. (Or, using the system I suggested, 0d and 0n.)
Jesus Christ, what a shitshow that would be. Longer workdays in the summer, shorter in the winter. Different workdays depending on how far north you are.
Yes! We would safely hobble the Canadians and Scandinavians during winters—as well as give opportunities to Southern hemisphere countries during the northern winter. But, as mentioned, like all time zone systems, it falls down near the poles.
Yet another reason to do away with time zones.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 21 Oct 2018, 04:02

Aresen wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 23:06
Eric the .5b wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 21:41
Yes! We would safely hobble the Canadians and Scandinavians during winters—as well as give opportunities to Southern hemisphere countries during the northern winter. But, as mentioned, like all time zone systems, it falls down near the poles.
In the dark, you can't see the Canadians coming....
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
This is where latitude is the friend of America.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by tr0g » 21 Oct 2018, 13:17

Eric the .5b wrote:
21 Oct 2018, 04:02
Aresen wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 23:06
Eric the .5b wrote:
19 Oct 2018, 21:41
Yes! We would safely hobble the Canadians and Scandinavians during winters—as well as give opportunities to Southern hemisphere countries during the northern winter. But, as mentioned, like all time zone systems, it falls down near the poles.
In the dark, you can't see the Canadians coming....
There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
This is where latitude is the friend of America.
We have entirely too much latitude in America as is.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jennifer » 21 Oct 2018, 23:03

The trendy Ponce* City Market in Atlanta is in a three-or four-story giant brick building that used to be a Sears, Roebuck & Co. -- which I know because that's carved in stone above the building's main doors. Back in New England there were a few other old repurposed buildings of that sort, such as (I'm just making this up, since I can't recall specifics) a modern "Webster Bank" branch in an old building with "Anderson Bank and Trust" carved in stone. There were even buildings carved "So and So's general store." So I wonder: when did businesses STOP being confident enough in their long-lastingness to carve their names in stone on their buildings? (Ordinary business buildings, NOT corporate HQ.) What was the last such stone-carved business building erected in America?

*I bet every British tourist who visits Atlanta gets the giggles when they see those giant neon PONCE signs
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Highway » 22 Oct 2018, 07:08

"We can't assume / assure we'll be in business forever" is probably the last last reason why a successful business constructing a new building doesn't set the business name in stone. Aesthetics is probably a lot more of a reason, both because stone / brick buildings of that size are relatively rare now, and because you can't make it part of a branding effort the way you can with a sign. It's also not the social signal it was before. All of those guys in the past that put their name on buildings didn't think they'd live forever, either. They put their name on there because they were rich and important enough to put up a building with their name on it.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jennifer » 22 Oct 2018, 07:32

Not all of the stone-carved buildings had people's names on them, though; plenty of "First National Banks" and the like.
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