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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Shem » 09 Oct 2017, 11:50

nicole wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 07:38
Fin Fang Foom wrote:
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Is Douthat still a devout Catholic? What's his stance on child rape?
To me, Ross Douthat will always be the creppy motherfucker who was disgusted by a "chunky Reese Witherspoon" who probably was just trying to give him it sex.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 09 Oct 2017, 18:15

"creppy" = creepy
"it sex" = pity sex

I wouldn't be surprised if Douthat is into clown porn though.

Ralph Douthat (Ralph Wiggum + Ross Douthat) is a good Twitter account, though it isn't Kim Kiergaardashian like.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by dbcooper » 11 Oct 2017, 10:03

I guess it's official now that no one cares about the Nobel literature prize in anyway?
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by the innominate one » 11 Oct 2017, 10:08

Only if Harry Potter won.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 11 Oct 2017, 10:09

dbcooper wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:03
I guess it's official now that no one cares about the Nobel literature prize in anyway?
I mean I've been seeing takes about it for the past week?
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 11 Oct 2017, 10:11

nicole wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:09
dbcooper wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:03
I guess it's official now that no one cares about the Nobel literature prize in anyway?
I mean I've been seeing takes about it for the past week?
Here's a terrible one I read yesterday: https://www.theawl
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Andrew » 11 Oct 2017, 11:38

nicole wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:11
nicole wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:09
dbcooper wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 10:03
I guess it's official now that no one cares about the Nobel literature prize in anyway?
I mean I've been seeing takes about it for the past week?
Here's a terrible one I read yesterday: https://www.theawl
.com/2017/10/kazuo-ishiguro-is-a-readers-writer/
That is some pretty good trolling.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by dhex » 11 Oct 2017, 12:33

hahahaha what

jfc

i liked remains of the day and esp never let me go. haven't read anything else.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 11 Oct 2017, 13:00

I knew you would like that. I've read only Artist of the Floating World and A Pale View of Hills. Both v good.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by JasonL » 11 Oct 2017, 13:26

Never let me go was solid. Saw but didn't read remains of the day. Also good.

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Post by dhex » 11 Oct 2017, 14:27

also that awl piece weirdly enough spoils never let me go in the last sentence.

but yeah it's a dumb but common b) argument about the nobel, e.g.

a) "i've never heard of this, therefore anyone who likes it is laughing at me and/or lying about liking it - like moby dick!"

b) "finally they picked someone i've heard of!"

c) "lol furfags!"

eta: also holy shit moby dick is great you fuckface
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Andrew » 11 Oct 2017, 14:31

I like Sebald getting stuck in the first group with Pynchon and Bolano.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 11 Oct 2017, 15:22

Only men read Djuna Barnes.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by dhex » 11 Oct 2017, 16:50

Yeah I mean what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Also Cormac Mccarthy is many things but boring? Jesus Christ bro
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Ellie » 11 Oct 2017, 16:58

dhex wrote:
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Also Cormac Mccarthy is many things but boring? Jesus Christ bro
Haha, seriously.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 11 Oct 2017, 17:07

Ellie wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 16:58
dhex wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 16:50
Also Cormac Mccarthy is many things but boring? Jesus Christ bro
Haha, seriously.
Also, not read? Oprah?
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by dhex » 11 Oct 2017, 17:09

I feel cursed for knowing that this piece exists.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by nicole » 11 Oct 2017, 17:41

I know. Sorry.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by dhex » 11 Oct 2017, 17:47

It's either really top notch trolling or just fucked
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Shem » 11 Oct 2017, 18:49

Please break links using spaces, not line breaks. Putting line breaks back together on mobile is a pain in the ass.

Also, you shouldn't make a taxonomy if you're not even capable of dividing your examples properly. Franzen makes page turners? And is not pretentious, "writer's writer" dreck? That's not even in spitting distance of correct.

I too kind of hate Nicole for bringing this to my attention.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 11 Oct 2017, 20:34

So, I was trying some Mountain House pouches out for lunch to scope them out for my emergency food supply, and I noticed that the "best by" dates were months in 2046 and 2047.

Confronted with a foodstuff that could well outlast me, I proceeded to prove some futile mastery over it by reconstituting and consuming it.

(Not great, but pleasant processed food. I didn't even have any problems with bits that didn't fully reconstitute.)
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Jennifer » 11 Oct 2017, 20:48

Eric the .5b wrote:
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So, I was trying some Mountain House pouches out for lunch to scope them out for my emergency food supply, and I noticed that the "best by" dates were months in 2046 and 2047.

Confronted with a foodstuff that could well outlast me, I proceeded to prove some futile mastery over it by reconstituting and consuming it.

(Not great, but pleasant processed food. I didn't even have any problems with bits that didn't fully reconstitute.)
Are those the kind that require the addition of hot water, or the equivalent of MREs with their own built-in chemical heating elements? I was kinda-sorta toying with the idea of getting some Mountain House or similar stuff for hurricane/emergency supplies (as opposed to being canned-ravioli-type stuff which I generally don't like to eat under ordinary circumstances, which means when hurricane season ends I either force myself to eat stuff I don't really want, or throw the cans away after they've expired and become annoyed by the waste). Oroblem was, the MH stuff I saw required the addition of boiling water, and if I'm in an emergency situation where I'm reduced to eating stuff like canned ravioli or canned chicken-and-dumplings, that means I don't have power (and might evn lack clean running water), in which case boiling water clearly won't be an option.

(My emergency-cooking makeshift I used for that week I lacked heat or electricity after the Halloween blizzard in Connecticut was, dump canned heat-n-serve into a disposable aluminum chafing dish, then heat on a Sterno stove fueled by a generic-brand can of ethanol gel of the sort used to heat chafing dishes. The Sterno setup provides sufficient heat for canned food, but NOT enough to actually boil water.)
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Andrew » 11 Oct 2017, 21:21

Mountain House and Backpacker's Pantry are both surprisingly good. Not gourmet cuisine by a long shot, but for an emergency/hiking hot meal by just adding water, they are a long way from the freeze-dried foods of 10 or 20 years ago.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 11 Oct 2017, 22:43

Jennifer wrote:
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Are those the kind that require the addition of hot water, or the equivalent of MREs with their own built-in chemical heating elements?
You have to add hot water; ideally, boiling. To my knowledge, there's nothing magical about it being boiling, just that the hotter it is, the faster it reconstitutes and the hotter the food is afterward. I have heard of using MRE flameless ration heaters (FRHs) to heat water for them, but as those don't get near boiling, you supposedly have to let contents soak for longer, and the food won't be as hot when it's ready. I've even heard of people using room temperature water in a pinch.

Your Sterno setup might work perfectly fine, especially since you can keep it heated while the stuff reconstitutes in a pot or something. I have a small backyard with a covered patio, so my current plan is a little Esbit-fueled camping stove. If you feel like testing it, your local Wal-Mart might have the single-serving MH pouches in the camping supplies section for about $5 apiece.

Water is definitely a concern; the single-serving pouches want 2/3 to 3/4 of a cup of water, while the larger pouches are 2-3 servings and want corresponding amounts of water. It's a use of water you have to allow for, if you get the stuff.

They're definitely not everyday fare; they're comfort food for camping, more-or-less, and thus fairly high in calories (admittedly not a problem for emergency food) and salt. I'm looking at bulk freeze-dried vegetables and other long-lived stuff to bulk out my storm diet. I'm also going to try a Mayday bar for last-ditch rations, though those things are only rated for five years.
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Re: Observations of the Random sort

Post by Eric the .5b » 11 Oct 2017, 23:01

Andrew wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 21:21
Mountain House and Backpacker's Pantry are both surprisingly good. Not gourmet cuisine by a long shot, but for an emergency/hiking hot meal by just adding water, they are a long way from the freeze-dried foods of 10 or 20 years ago.
Well, they could be pretty similar to the better freeze-dried foods of decades past. :D



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