Celebrities who are libertarian

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Celebrities who are libertarian

Post by thoreau » 09 Jun 2010, 17:58

This is a thread about celebrities who are or claim to be libertarian, as opposed to celebrities within libertarianism (e.g. DONDEROOOOOOOOOOOOO who is famous in the infamous way).

I just learned that the lead singer for Muse is a libertarian:

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I’m coming to the conclusion that the UK needs a constitution. I’m a libertarian but it feels like a time for a drastic change. Because Britain has no constitution there’s no higher power than the government – I think that’s why the UK is getting so done over.
Reading the stuff before that about bankers and wealth, he might not sound very libertarian, but keep in mind that (1) the bankers had just gotten bailed out by the state and (2) he's from a place that still has dukes.

From listening to his music, I'd say he's more of the conspiracy theory type of libertarian (e.g. "When the zetas fill the skies, will our leaders tell us why?") but I like his stuff so it's cool.
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Post by Shem » 09 Jun 2010, 18:15

A British libertarian is not necessarily the same thing as an American libertarian. More than a few British people I've talked to who identified themselves as "libertarian" really meant "libertarian socialist," which is what we'd call "anarcho-socialist."
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Post by dbcooper » 09 Jun 2010, 18:37

Yeah, classical liberal is probably a closer description in the UK.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 09 Jun 2010, 18:39

There are market-loving libertarian sorts in the UK, but they're rarer on the ground.
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Post by thoreau » 09 Jun 2010, 18:41

Well, judging from some of his lyrics he has enough tinfoil in his hat to be a member of the LP. :)

Although, yeah, I guess that a song like "United States of Eurasia" isn't really in the mold of a US libertarian.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 09 Jun 2010, 18:49

Reading the lyrics of that song from their site (direct, unformatted link at http://goo.gl/c1pd, or go to http://goo.gl/Jz22 and click the document symbol by the song to enjoy the nifty design work), I'm not so sure I agree, Thoreau.
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Post by thoreau » 09 Jun 2010, 18:57

Lots of libertarian sentiment in that song, to be sure, but the call for a unified state across Eurasia would not go over well with many libertarians.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 09 Jun 2010, 19:05

thoreau wrote:Lots of libertarian sentiment in that song, to be sure, but the call for a unified state across Eurasia would not go over well with many libertarians.
No, but that strikes me as more the result of some specific hobby-horses than anything especially libertarian. I'm skeptical of the smaller-nations-are-better thesis at the moment, and for all its faults, the US manages to be more libertarian than a lot of developed nation in various ways, all the while being the third-largest nation in the world by population.

EDIT: But I may be quibbling.
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Post by dhex » 09 Jun 2010, 23:04

who is this guy?

i know it's kinda heretical, and i really loved their stage show, but penn and teller get on my nerves sometimes.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 09 Jun 2010, 23:27

dhex wrote:i know it's kinda heretical, and i really loved their stage show, but penn and teller get on my nerves sometimes.
I once tried to watch an episode of B*llshit and turned it off 8 minutes in. The production was worse than Shark Week and I wanted to kick Penn in his face.
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Post by thoreau » 10 Jun 2010, 00:20

dhex wrote:who is this guy?
If you're referring to the guy I linked to the article about, he's the lead singer for Muse. Here's my favorite Muse song:

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Post by Taktix® » 10 Jun 2010, 05:23

Hugh Akston wrote:
dhex wrote:i know it's kinda heretical, and i really loved their stage show, but penn and teller get on my nerves sometimes.
I once tried to watch an episode of B*llshit and turned it off 8 minutes in. The production was worse than Shark Week and I wanted to kick Penn in his face.
They're very hit or miss. The ones on the WOD and Profanity are classics, if you choose to give the show another chance...
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Post by Jasper » 10 Jun 2010, 08:04

I was a fan of Kurt Russel during his Disney days, found new appreciation for him with the John Carpenter movies, and was happy to discover he has very libertarian tendencies.
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Post by Number 6 » 10 Jun 2010, 20:16

Off the top of my head:
John Popper, from Blues Traveller. "Support Your Local Emperor" is pretty blatantly libertarian. He's also out and proud as a libertarian.
Neil Peart, of course.
I recalled something about Clint Eastwood having libertarian tendencies, and a quick check of Wikipedia suggests that he's at least made noises about being a libertarian.
Other than that, I can't think of any except the obvious ones, like Drew Carey.
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Post by Taktix® » 11 Jun 2010, 05:42

Trey Parker, and I think Southpark has gone a long way toward fomenting distrust of authority.

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales.

I think there's a video of John Mayer yelling "Ron Paul" at Justin Long outside of a club...
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Post by JasonL » 11 Jun 2010, 09:10

James Woods. I wonder if Carpenter is a libertarian. He seems to have worked with all 3 in Hollywood.

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Post by dbcooper » 11 Jun 2010, 09:12

JasonL wrote:James Woods. I wonder if Carpenter is a libertarian. He seems to have worked with all 3 in Hollywood.
Nah, Carpenter is quite left. Kurt Russell has discussed it in interviews.
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Post by Rachel » 11 Jun 2010, 15:39

Jon Stewart once described himself as a "downtown libertarian" (in response to Bill Kristol calling him an Upper West Side liberal). Google reveals that many people on the internet have discussed this and that he's probably not.

I think a lot of people here hate Jon Stewart (?) though anyway. (I could be completely misremembering)
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Post by Hugh Akston » 11 Jun 2010, 15:55

I would take Stewart's claims to libertarianism more seriously if he spent half the energy criticizing Obama that he did on the Bush administration.
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Post by Rachel » 11 Jun 2010, 16:11

Hugh Akston wrote:I would take Stewart's claims to libertarianism more seriously if he spent half the energy criticizing Obama that he did on the Bush administration.
I do think he has become less enamored with Obama as of late, but he was ridiculously dedicated to Hope and Change.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 11 Jun 2010, 16:39

Stewart's a liberal. Psych majors with C averages at William & Mary can't be trusted to understand the difference.

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Post by Warren » 11 Jun 2010, 16:45

Penn Jillette can bug me too, but 90% of the time I agree with him on issues of policy if not of taste.
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Post by Sandy » 11 Jun 2010, 17:47

I don't hate John Stewart; I just hate it when he gets all "I'm an Important Media Critic Who Will Tell You What's Right" because he's a hypocritical jackass unwilling to take criticism by hiding behind his "I'm not a journalist" bit. Limbaugh tried the same shit, and it doesn't fly there either.
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Re: Celebrities who are libertarian

Post by Shem » 11 Jun 2010, 18:03

Stewart strikes me as the liberal equivalent of the reds who declare themselves libertarian because they like the economic ideas, but ditch out when it comes to the social stuff. Stewart is pretty good about nailing people on bullshit when its about the war or Patriot Act type stuff (he's even been better than almost anyone else in hitting the Obama administration about it, I have to say, though that's at least as much an indictment of Fox News' descent into Birther paranoia) but when it comes to economics, he's pretty much a garden variety liberal.
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