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This is good https://reason.com/2019/12/17/standing- ... nightmare/

(But also I couldn’t stop wondering why there weren’t any studies of walking-only escalator efficiency.)
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So ... everyone stands? Left ... right ... all standing? That sounds horribly stupid. People have shit to do. Do they want you to apologize for everyone you accidentally bump into as well? How about being the idiot who holds the door open for people and then is surprised that they can't enter themselves? God. Nothing would get done! Nothing! You would never make it to work!
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How would you even enforce a standing-only escalator? Posting cops there would only take police resources away from the much more urgent needs like pulling aside and savagely beating people who stop and look down to time their step onto the escalator.
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I'm of the mindset that the studies which show standing-only escalators are more efficient are true, but only in a narrow and artificial sense. All of the studies seem to be comparing a maximally packed escalator with either a) standers on right and left, b) standers on right, walkers on left. And yes, I can see how standers-only is more efficient in one sense, because if walkers move 2x as fast but you can only fit 1/3 as many of them, overall throughput is lower. But these all seem to have the assumption that there is a big mass of people at the bottom standing around waiting to be loaded onto the escalator, and that is not what real-world situations look like.
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There was a department store in Arlington that was eventually torn down but prior to that time had been converted to a satellite campus of George Mason University and the original home of its law school. Anyway, it had the first escalators I can recall as a child and the thing I remember is that they were only wide enough for one person. I suppose someone could sidle past others but I don't recall ever see it attempted.

The reason there are probably no studies of walking-only escalator efficiency, even were there no ADA, is that many especially older people who use escalators don't want to or are unable to walk up or down stairs at what others would consider a normal pace.

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I mean, I know that’s why. I’m just saying I also know it’s the slow people who are slowing things down.
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nicole wrote:
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I mean, I know that’s why. I’m just saying I also know it’s the slow people who are slowing things down.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 16:06
How would you even enforce a standing-only escalator? Posting cops there would only take police resources away from the much more urgent needs like pulling aside and savagely beating people who stop and look down to time their step onto the escalator.
When all the cars are computer controlled, it will be the job of former DMV employees to savagely beat people who walk up escalators. After all, they have the temperament for it.
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Aresen wrote:
18 Dec 2019, 10:17
Hugh Akston wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 16:06
How would you even enforce a standing-only escalator? Posting cops there would only take police resources away from the much more urgent needs like pulling aside and savagely beating people who stop and look down to time their step onto the escalator.
When all the cars are computer controlled, it will be the job of former DMV employees to savagely beat people who walk up escalators. After all, they have the temperament for it.
Yeah, but I don't think they have the energy for it. Someone will require a beating, and the DMV employees will just roll their eyes and walk away so they can continue their conversation.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 17:11
There was a department store in Arlington that was eventually torn down but prior to that time had been converted to a satellite campus of George Mason University and the original home of its law school. Anyway, it had the first escalators I can recall as a child and the thing I remember is that they were only wide enough for one person. I suppose someone could sidle past others but I don't recall ever see it attempted.

The reason there are probably no studies of walking-only escalator efficiency, even were there no ADA, is that many especially older people who use escalators don't want to or are unable to walk up or down stairs at what others would consider a normal pace.

And, of course, we vote.

The Hecht's (now Macy's) escalators in Parkington (now Ballston Quarter and was Ballston Commons) are still there and the narrow type, but they have recently changed their handrails from the 'tube' style to the more common flat style.

(They also finally tore down the building that was the Sears in Clarendon)
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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
17 Dec 2019, 17:11
There was a department store in Arlington that was eventually torn down but prior to that time had been converted to a satellite campus of George Mason University and the original home of its law school. Anyway, it had the first escalators I can recall as a child and the thing I remember is that they were only wide enough for one person. I suppose someone could sidle past others but I don't recall ever see it attempted.
I saw someone attempt it a few times when I was going to school there. They'd only try once, though. Between the dirty looks for elbowing past someone and the fact that by the end of their life, moving to quickly on the escalators gave them an unpleasant shudder, most people just held on and waited out the ride.
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