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by Eric the .5b
Today, 08:54
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Democrats will toss him if they think it would help defeat Roy Moore. If they think they can get away with keeping him they will. I think it's reversed; they'll keep Roy Moore if it's necessary to not lose one of their own. Or however many of their own has stories like these turn up. I really think...
by Eric the .5b
Today, 03:41
Forum: The Joys of Life
Topic: Details, details
Replies: 7
Views: 128

Re: Details, details

And, as you said, that it's really all about the rewriting is the biggest lesson. My biggest failing as a writer is editing too much as I write. Editing is another thing which, like describing details, can be bad if there's too much but also bad if there's too little. If you have an unfinished work...
by Eric the .5b
Today, 00:06
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

So I had a random thought about Franken as related to a general rule. Let’s say Franken gets the boot over this. What is the incentive to come clean, repent and make peace with the past accuser. It basically shows that your best bet is to fight, no matter how long the odds because coming clean gets...
by Eric the .5b
Today, 00:00
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: Worthwhile intertubez finds
Replies: 11525
Views: 610807

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Ellie wrote:
Yesterday, 23:20
It's the end of sitting except most of it is for sitting on.
And somewhere, an outraged manager is looking at that massive waste of space and volume and dreaming of battery-farm-esque multi-layer cubical grids...
by Eric the .5b
Yesterday, 23:47
Forum: The Joys of Life
Topic: Details, details
Replies: 7
Views: 128

Re: Details, details

My concern is similar to what I already said -- too much detail where it isn't necessary and too little detail where it is -- but I'm also struggling to obey the writer's credo "show, don't tell." The hideous pompous early-draft version of this book basically gets the information forward via a seri...
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 23:36
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

The first time I read over that tripe, I interpreted the phrase "a gorgeous personal secretary to Senator Bob Taft" as "I fucked people ranging from X to Y". I thought he was outrageously taking the piss. Pity.
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 23:34
Forum: The Joys of Life
Topic: Details, details
Replies: 7
Views: 128

Re: Details, details

Jake wrote:
17 Nov 2017, 23:19
Eric the .5b wrote:
17 Nov 2017, 20:55
The stuff about discussions and plans is very true—you often hear it called bikeshedding in programming.
Cool! There's a name for it! I see this all the time in municipal government, but I've never had a nice, short descriptor before. Thanks! :)
Happy to help! :)
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 21:46
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Oh, newsmedia. Two short paragraphs that there's an alleged crime, a quick bio, and cut-and-paste of press releases.
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 20:55
Forum: The Joys of Life
Topic: Details, details
Replies: 7
Views: 128

Re: Details, details

The stuff about discussions and plans is very true—you often hear it called bikeshedding in programming. Funnily enough, I actually lost the response I wrote to you in the thread, Jennifer. Set it aside, realized I hadn't hit post, and then the server rejected it, and I couldn't get it back. :P Just...
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 18:52
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

(Molesting a "bespectacled frump" is clearly beyond the pale, but a sexy-pictures model? Obviously she's available to any man, anyplace, anytime. And in Talibanland so is Vivian Copeland, for posting pictures of her sexy naked face and hair online where ALL THE MEN IN THE WORLD CAN SEE.) Slut shami...
by Eric the .5b
17 Nov 2017, 07:21
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

The "minor" being the only part Clinton wasn't accused of. That's not a minor detail. For fuck's sake. You know what, Mo? I sure as Hell didn't say it was. But, if you seriously want to score pointless internet points about which rape attempts were worse , you don't have to die on that hill. You ca...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 23:27
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

The "minor" being the only part Clinton wasn't accused of. That's not a minor detail. For fuck's sake. You know what, Mo? I sure as Hell didn't say it was. But, if you seriously want to score pointless internet points about which rape attempts were worse , you don't have to die on that hill. You ca...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:50
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Heh. Now, I'm seeing fresh Blues chiming in, deeply outraged! ...because Trump tweeted about Franken (with surprising near-lucidity) and not Moore. Of course. I don't think Franken's troubles will go away immediately, if at all. If it had been 1980 rather than 2006, he might get away more cleanly, b...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:37
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Also, there are fucking degrees of murder, we're going to get upset because someone says there are degrees of sexual harassment? When it's all sexual harassment is horrible and deplorable and anyone who does it should be hounded away from civilized people right up until a politician they support do...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:35
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

To my mind, the order of seriousness (least serious to most): 1. Franken 2. Clinton - Monica 3. Moore - Barely Legal 4. Trump - Pussy grabbing 5. Moore - Illegal 6. Clinton - rapes The top two are much more forgivable than the next one, and the bottom three are unforgivable. 7. Moore attempted forc...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:19
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Pfft. Trumpkins are never going to turn on him about pussy-grabbing. And Blues won't turn on Clinton in any meaningful way in his lifetime—and when they do turn, they'll all have been retroactively abhorring him the whole time. And yes, Blues are already starting to go the we've been spending almost...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:08
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Not another accusation, yet, but depressing . Rape victim who'd gone to Franken to get a bill passed to have more nurses trained to interview sexual assault victims is horrified and wants his name off the bill. (Mind, it's kinda creepy, though probably irrelevant, that she was raped by a former int...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:06
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Mo wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 21:55
So something interesting. Mrs. Mo* was disappointed in Franken, very offended, and hemmed and hawed about stepping down. When she heard the apology was accepted and the victim did not want him to step down, she thought that was what should happen.
Er, that he should, or shouldn't, step down?
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 22:05
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Our beloved Kevin Drum is already going for hey, it was just one photographed grope and she accepted his apology, it's over! with a heaping helping of not all harassment is equal (especially when it's Blue harassment against some Red local TV host/model...). He also does a bit of the hey, it's not ...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 21:44
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

I didn't see in her accusation that Franken was trying to fuck her. Fair enough, though I don't think that's an unfair inference of where he wanted to go, not when he stuck his tongue in a woman's mouth and got offended that she avoided being alone with him (and avoided him as much as possible) aft...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 21:27
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

I'm both coldly unsympathetic (it wasn't one incident, it was him harassing someone who wouldn't fuck him over a period of time) and unconcerned about whether it "should" be a career-ender. He seems to be using "incident" as synonymous with "victim" here. Thoreau didn't even say "incident", just "a...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 21:01
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

So far Franken only has one accusation, and there's an argument to be made that if it's truly just one offense then it should not be a career-ender. Especially if you're a Blue. I'm both coldly unsympathetic (it wasn't one incident, it was him harassing someone who wouldn't fuck him over a period o...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 20:36
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Mo wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 20:33
"Oh noes, his wonderful career ruined!" is hardly an endorsement of the behavior. See db and my dismay at Over the Top being tainted.
And now, I'm seeing Blues go, "Hey, she accepted his apology, we should all stop talking about it!"
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 20:23
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread
Replies: 161
Views: 1691

Re: No touching! - sexual impropriety thread

Someone elsewhere made a good point that the only stuff Franken apologized for was what got photographed (him groping her while she was asleep) and what had lots of witnesses. And yes, the Blue arguments are just as I expected. I've seen pretty much across the board condemnation. The only differenc...
by Eric the .5b
16 Nov 2017, 19:08
Forum: General Chatter
Topic: I bless the rains
Replies: 26
Views: 406

Re: I bless the rains

dhex wrote:
16 Nov 2017, 09:48
africa is a big fucking place.
Something something thread count as a sensory homunculus of our political attention.