did you use a physical phone directory in 2009? (yellowpages, superpages, yellowbook, etc)

dhex's picture
Yes. I also danced the Charleston and smoked jazz cigarettes.
37% (16 votes)
No.
63% (27 votes)
Total votes: 43

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dhex's picture

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help me do a little research here, good people.

J sub D's picture

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A cab from a bar.

Warren's picture

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For local businesses without a web presence I find the physical phone book most reliable. Mind you I'm using it less and less. Maybe twice in ought nine.

Shem's picture

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Yes. I used the chair that I made out of spare phone books that I took from the University when I lived on campus. Surprisingly comfortable.

(to comply with the spirit of the poll, yes, I also used the listings inside on a non-furniture book.)

Warren's picture

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Shem wrote:
Yes. I used the chair that I made out of spare phone books that I took from the University when I lived on campus. Surprisingly comfortable.

Srsly? Pics?

Stevo Darkly's picture

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In 2009, I used a printed phone book no more than twice.

Only because I was in a place with no Internet access (my apartment, for the time being).

Shem's picture

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Warren wrote:
Shem wrote:
Yes. I used the chair that I made out of spare phone books that I took from the University when I lived on campus. Surprisingly comfortable.

Srsly? Pics?

I would, but it's 3,000 miles away, and buried under a pile of crap in a mini-storage besides.

Jadagul's picture

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Nope. Although I did dance the Charleston on more than one occasion. (What, you're surprised?)

Number 6's picture

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I live in bubbaville, where not every business or person can be found online. That being said, online searches probably outnumber book searches 20-1.

Jake's picture

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Once or twice, tops.

dbcooper's picture

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Umm, I used quite a few (phone book sized) paper catalogs for engineering parts - I find them much easier than websites when I don't know exactly what I'm looking for.

Aresen's picture

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Yes to phone book, no to the Charleston and the cigarettes.

This is mostly at home, however, where it is a lot handier to flip open the book than turn on the computer and wait five minutes for the startup to complete. [The latter is my own fault, due to the installation of excessive security software.]

Timothy's picture

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Wait...you power down your computer?

Jadagul's picture

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Timothy wrote:
Wait...you power down your computer?

Yeah, that was my reaction, too.

dhex's picture

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thanks! this is anecdatally helpful.

D.A. Ridgely's picture

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I voted no but on further reflection I think I've used the dead-tree yellow pages to peruse local restaurants at least once last year. Search engines are hit and miss when it comes to hole-in-the-wall Mexican restaurants and pizzerias which may well not even have health code inspections let alone websites or third party notice posted online.

Rachel's picture

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If I can't find something via Google it doesn't exist/isn't worth finding.

I don't think I've ever used a phone book. Maybe the school directory that had everyone in the school's phone numbers, back in elementary school. But a physical phone book? Probably never.

D.A. Ridgely's picture

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And there, in a nutshell, is the real digital divide. It isn't so much that there are younger people who don't have access to computers as that the younger generation in general is largely oblivious or unwilling to use research techniques that don't involve electricity. (That may not be true of Rachel, I'm only riffing off her comment which I took as somewhat tongue in cheek.) Every first year law student is taught how to use the actual dead-tree library and every second year law student, unless he's on law review, promptly forgets how to do so. Tons of relevant material in the two disciplines I do know a bit about, law and philosophy, remain undigitized and probably always will. The internet has created a new sort of tunnel vision where, like in the movies, if it ain't in the frame, it doesn't exist.

Rachel's picture

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Hm. Does it count if I use the computer to find out that the library only has the resources in dead tree version and THEN go find where the dead tree version is buried?

D.A. Ridgely's picture

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Yes, because the card catalog was long ago replaced by a computer database, so you have no real choice, anyway. I'm not against computer assisted research, I merely think the "terrain" is vastly larger than its "map" leads some to believe.

Timothy's picture

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I don't know about a lot of the sciences, but a lot of older references in chemistry are only on dead-tree. This may or may not matter, depending on what it is you're doing, exactly.

Jadagul's picture

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Math is moving more and more to the point where dead-tree is completely irrelevant. A surprising fraction of textbooks can be downloaded free of charge from the author's website. Almost all papers get put on the ArXiV at some point, often long before they're actually published. And can also often be downloaded from the authors' websites. I give it twenty, maybe thirty years before reading a math paper on dead tree means you used a printer at some point.

Aresen's picture

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Jadagul wrote:
Timothy wrote:
Wait...you power down your computer?

Yeah, that was my reaction, too.

?

I see no particular reason to shovel money at BC Hydro for the 21 hours/day that I am not at my computer (standby mode uses less power, not zero.

Plus, I find the humming of the fan annoying as well as the damn slowly blinking light at night.

Jadagul's picture

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"21 hours/day"? I assume you flipped the digits, but still, man, that's a lot. :P

Ali's picture

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what's a "physical phone"?

i don't even own a landline since 2003/4.

Aresen's picture

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Ali wrote:
what's a "physical phone"?

The latest thing is the "metaphysical phone": One communicates telepathically. EDIT: It has great "hands free" features.

Tom Cruise is doing the marketing, I believe.

Shem's picture

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Jadagul wrote:
"21 hours/day"? I assume you flipped the digits, but still, man, that's a lot. :P

I think you may want to re-read what he wrote...

Jadagul's picture

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Shem wrote:
Jadagul wrote:
"21 hours/day"? I assume you flipped the digits, but still, man, that's a lot. :P

I think you may want to re-read what he wrote...

I did. He implied that he spends at least half his day not at his computer. I'm a bit puzzled, honestly.

Shem's picture

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Aha. I forgot who I was talking to... :p

mk's picture

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I also danced the Charleston and smoked jazz cigarettes.

Pshaw, after commuting home from my job at the county sanitarium on my velocipede, I barely have enough energy to doff my top hat and groom my enormous mustache much less do the Charleston. As for "jazz cigarettes", well I am afraid that I am simply not "23 Skidoo" enough to know what you are implying.

As for the Phone listings, my 13 year-old is always on the computer. I barely get on it anymore (except for now , of course). If I am going to order food from the local Siamese delivery service, I must use the Yellow directory.

Also signatures are noticeably absent. - Smacky

Pham Nuwen's picture

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I picked no. Then after reading the comments I realized I had used it. In Savannah the google maps is bullshit. So I used a "phone" book(directory? never heard it called that).

Stevo Darkly's picture

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
And there, in a nutshell, is the real digital divide. It isn't so much that there are younger people who don't have access to computers as that the younger generation in general is largely oblivious or unwilling to use research techniques that don't involve electricity. (That may not be true of Rachel, I'm only riffing off her comment which I took as somewhat tongue in cheek.) Every first year law student is taught how to use the actual dead-tree library and every second year law student, unless he's on law review, promptly forgets how to do so. Tons of relevant material in the two disciplines I do know a bit about, law and philosophy, remain undigitized and probably always will. The internet has created a new sort of tunnel vision where, like in the movies, if it ain't in the frame, it doesn't exist.

In addition, in some online debates, if you can't "provide a link" that supports what you are saying, you might as well be making stuff up. "I read it in an actual book or newspaper during the 1980s, and I remember it" sounds like a lame excuse.

D.A. Ridgely's picture

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Stevo Darkly wrote:
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
And there, in a nutshell, is the real digital divide. It isn't so much that there are younger people who don't have access to computers as that the younger generation in general is largely oblivious or unwilling to use research techniques that don't involve electricity. (That may not be true of Rachel, I'm only riffing off her comment which I took as somewhat tongue in cheek.) Every first year law student is taught how to use the actual dead-tree library and every second year law student, unless he's on law review, promptly forgets how to do so. Tons of relevant material in the two disciplines I do know a bit about, law and philosophy, remain undigitized and probably always will. The internet has created a new sort of tunnel vision where, like in the movies, if it ain't in the frame, it doesn't exist.

In addition, in some online debates, if you can't "provide a link" that supports what you are saying, you might as well be making stuff up. "I read it in an actual book or newspaper during the 1980s, and I remember it" sounds like a lame excuse.


Oh, I doubt that ever happens. Can you provide a link? *grin*

Warren's picture

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Timothy wrote:
Wait...you power down your computer?

On a Windows machine I find powering down every day invaluable in slowing the rate of decline.
I leave my iMac running. It's two years old now and crashes about once every other month. I give it a reboot about every other week for updates, which there seems to be far more of with Apple than MS.

Jasper Havoc's picture

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A few times for reasons cited above. Namely local shops w/o a web presence.

Number 6's picture

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I turn mine off. A powered-down machine doesn't wear.

Warren's picture

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Number 6 wrote:
I turn mine off. A powered-down machine doesn't wear.

ROFL

Jennifer's picture

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I've used the phone book for the same reason as Aresen -- looking up a local number is quicker than waiting for my computer to boot up.

Isaac Bartram's picture

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I actually voted yes but I realize that I do rely on the dead tree yellow pages less and less, to the point that I'm really starting to get pissed of that both Sprint and Southern Bell (or whatever each of them call themselves now) keep delivering the gorram things.

the innominate one's picture

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Isaac Bartram wrote:
I actually voted yes but I realize that I do rely on the dead tree yellow pages less and less, to the point that I'm really starting to get pissed of that both Sprint and Southern Bell (or whatever each of them call themselves now) keep delivering the gorram things.

same for me, although BellSouth AT&T did provide me the business directory in CD format last year. It's searchable, but the search function is not really very good. In some ways the hard copy is still superior. Plus, you know, I don't always leave my computer running, I don't have web access at home, and I often leave my computer at school.

Jadagul's picture

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the innominate one wrote:
Isaac Bartram wrote:
I actually voted yes but I realize that I do rely on the dead tree yellow pages less and less, to the point that I'm really starting to get pissed of that both Sprint and Southern Bell (or whatever each of them call themselves now) keep delivering the gorram things.

same for me, although BellSouth AT&T did provide me the business directory in CD format last year. It's searchable, but the search function is not really very good. In some ways the hard copy is still superior. Plus, you know, I don't always leave my computer running, I don't have web access at home, and I often leave my computer at school.

I have to say I find this very strange. Admittedly, I'm an outlier. My friend from college who was hired as the student senate webmaster laughs at my email addiction.

JD's picture

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My building gets great stacks of phone books...most of which go directly back into the trash still wrapped. I should collect them and use them for insulation or something.

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Never. Ever. I don't think I've used anything of the sort since google launched.