I protest that SoCal is not on the list. All these land locked/eastern cities? It's like y'all pathologically hate the idea of being in a pleasant place with beaches.
I voted Denver but per Dead_Elvis my first choice would be SoCal. I might be visiting Golden again for a week. It's a possibility. So Denver's a maybe. I'm definitely going to be in SoCal this year. I'll be in Lancaster right over the mountains from LA.
I stand by my previous statement that Denver is the Frontier hub and thus fatherland of cheap airfares. But if the common will dictates it, and I get some generous kickbacks public works projects for my district, I will accede to St Louis.
Only St Louis is a 'free' city (somewhat and only for the moment) in that regard, so i will nominate one more candidate, New Orleans. It's freewheeling nature allowed more by graft and corruption than free thinking politics, but like NYC, it is what it is.
Still, politics being local and geography being a factor when one is not enamored by dealing with the TSA .... it's Chicago then St Lou, with Denver & NYC being tied for third (both places Mrs Picasso will visit in a heartbeat) and close to the limits of a single day drive.
or somewhere in Florida. Florida has Isaac Bartram, Taktix, Pro Libertate, and, least importantly, me. Also, we have beaches, warm weather, and no income tax.
Northern FL is possible as a drive, South FL is one of the only places i'm willing to deal with the airtravel gestapo for. Tampa or Miami, love Key West but it can be frightfully expensive to get that close to Cuba. One thing for sure, it would be tragic to hold it there and not be on the ocean, like Orlando (yuk).
We have Busch Gardens, Adventure Island, the Florida Aquarium (which we could visit, then protest its use of tax dollars), the Dali Museum, Ybor City, and a variety of nudist/ naturist clubs and some really famous nudie bars/ strip clubs.
Of course I want NYC - it is the center of the universe, after all - but I think St. Louis would be pretty cool. I've never been there, and it's reasonably central; barely further than Chicago, to which Rachel and I drove last time. Denver & Seattle sound cool (I've been to Seattle once, and liked it very much), but they are a bit far. And I would seriously do Caracas if it were an option! A lure for you all: If we choose NYC, I might, depending on circumstances and what happens between now and then, be able to put some of you up...
Denver is a contemptible land which must be shunned for the duration of the reign of the Chosen One.
Harsh (and slimey!) words from a homebrewer for the town that hosts the Great American Beer Festival in the state that may be the cradle of the homebrewing movement!!!
City Museum is kind of weird, eclectic place to check out. I haven't been there in years, but it's fun if your inner child hasn't died yet.
My inner child is locked in the attic.
I might, by the way, toy with the idea of going to St. Louis, having never been there before. But only if Stevo will show us the soft, seamy underbelly where respectable citizens dare not dwell after dark.
City Museum is kind of weird, eclectic place to check out. I haven't been there in years, but it's fun if your inner child hasn't died yet.
My inner child is locked in the attic.
I might, by the way, toy with the idea of going to St. Louis, having never been there before. But only if Stevo will show us the soft, seamy underbelly where respectable citizens dare not dwell after dark.
Which reminds me -- sorry, you probably won't be able to see my apartment unless I get a chance to really clean it up and get new furniture by then.
City Museum is kind of weird, eclectic place to check out. I haven't been there in years, but it's fun if your inner child hasn't died yet.
My inner child is locked in the attic.
I might, by the way, toy with the idea of going to St. Louis, having never been there before. But only if Stevo will show us the soft, seamy underbelly where respectable citizens dare not dwell after dark.
Which reminds me -- sorry, you probably won't be able to see my apartment unless I get a chance to really clean it up and get new furniture by then.
Well, now, a chance to see DAR in person, to measure his horns and watch him feast on the souls of young orphans, to see him contemptously cudgel low-wage workers while calling those who possess only seven advanced degrees brainless troglodytes, to witness him scoffing at haberdasher employees who do not stock the latest in straw boater fashion before mercilessly pimp-slapping them with his custom-made pauper-slapping glove!
I'm so there...
Well, now, a chance to see DAR in person, to measure his horns and watch him feast on the souls of young orphans, to see him contemptously cudgel low-wage workers while calling those who possess only seven advanced degrees brainless troglodytes, to witness him scoffing at haberdasher employees who do not stock the latest in straw boater fashion before mercilessly pimp-slapping them with his custom-made pauper-slapping glove!
I'm so there...
Only gentlemen are slapped with one's gloves; the masses must do with being thrashed with a cane. And I've been a member of Orphans Anonymous for years now.
Only gentlemen? See that's the sort of information a whippersnapper aspiring to rise above his station needs. Should commoners be struck with a cane made of ash or hickory? Also, it is acceptable to thrash them harder if they have the audacity to bleed on your cane?
I was trying to put a nice spin on it... but you guys are too smart for me! :P
JD, I just read the article. Nothing I didn't know already but... now, I'm depressed again.
So now should we have a runoff poll between the two clear leaders, St. Louis and Denver? Unless Dr. T. wants to whip up the legenday Perfect Voting System for us really quick. ;)
Clear leaders? With such a small sample size, I hardly say clear.
Did I mention that if you have it in Seattle, you can go to the Olympic Sculpture Park and touch the artwork. Nothing screams "revolution" like touching public art. C'mon, huh? Huh?
Seattle, for all its charms (when it's not raining) is simply too remote. If there was sufficient interest in traveling that far, I'd nominate Mr. Shultz to put us all up for a Mexican Grillcon.
Seattle, for all its charms (when it's not raining) is simply too remote. If there was sufficient interest in traveling that far, I'd nominate Mr. Shultz to put us all up for a Mexican Grillcon.
Did you even read my message? Touching the sculptures, man.
Seattle, for all its charms (when it's not raining) is simply too remote. If there was sufficient interest in traveling that far, I'd nominate Mr. Shultz to put us all up for a Mexican Grillcon.
Did you even read my message? Touching the sculptures, man.
Offer me a MexiGryllicon in midwinter, and I'll buy the ticket online tonight.
St. Louis has one of the best botanical gardens in the world, and an excellent zoo.
By God! St. Louis does have a mighty fine zoo!
And you should see the Arch up close once in your life, even if you don't go up to the top.
City Museum is kind of weird, eclectic place to check out. I haven't been there in years, but it's fun if your inner child hasn't died yet.
And we'll eat somewhere in the Loop, or go to the Bleeding Deacon for food and drinks or something.
A really cool little boutique hotel recently opened up on the Loop. The Eclipse? Maybe? Anyways, it's moon themed, for all you "NASA is government largesse I can support" folks. Also, they have a pretty good comic book shop, and good places to go bowling.
This is such a good reason to attend Gryllicon. *drools*
Ellie, are you saying you like the taste of my pumpkin, especially when it's pouring down your throat?
hmm... That didn't come out as nasty as I was hoping for. This years pumpkin is not sweet at all like the 07. It's got strong pumpkin flavor with a big hops finish, the spices are very much undertones.
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I choose Seattle, because it's only 120 miles away.
Denver would be my second choice.
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I was just about to suggest that a masterfully crafted poll might be just the implement we need to resolve this conundrum.
And so far, voters prefer St. Louis to Seattle two to one!
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DC is a perfectly cromulent choice, although I picked NYC.
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Screw the subtext, I vote DC.
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I protest that SoCal is not on the list. All these land locked/eastern cities? It's like y'all pathologically hate the idea of being in a pleasant place with beaches.
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From my location:
Chicago: 1,355 Miles
Denver: 2,046 Miles
NYC: 1,260 Miles
St. Louis: 1,197 Miles
Seattle: 3,334 Miles
Washington, D.C.: 1,033 Miles
Yeah, I might not make it again...
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I voted Denver but per Dead_Elvis my first choice would be SoCal. I might be visiting Golden again for a week. It's a possibility. So Denver's a maybe. I'm definitely going to be in SoCal this year. I'll be in Lancaster right over the mountains from LA.
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I'll show up if it's in Toronto.
Edit - I just gave the kiss of death to Toronto, didn't I?
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I think the graph is giving Chicago the finger.
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I stand by my previous statement that Denver is the Frontier hub and thus fatherland of cheap airfares. But if the common will dictates it, and I get some generous
kickbackspublic works projects for my district, I will accede to St Louis.Re: Where do you prefer we hold Gryllicon 2010?
It should be in Seattle. You guys could see Bruce Lee's grave.
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Denver is a contemptible land which must be shunned for the duration of the reign of the Chosen One.
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As it well deserves it from libertarians. Or maybe it looks more like a variation on teh 'shocker' now...
Not that NYC is a paradise in that sense, but in spite of Bloomberg ... it's still NYC.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05272007/news/regionalnews/cig_ban__what_cig_ban__regionalnews_angela_montefinise.htm
http://www.nypost.com/pagesixmag/issues/20081130/Inside+NYCs+Smoking+Speakeasies
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01112009/news/regionalnews/cig_ban_ignored_149603.htm#comments
Only St Louis is a 'free' city (somewhat and only for the moment) in that regard, so i will nominate one more candidate, New Orleans. It's freewheeling nature allowed more by graft and corruption than free thinking politics, but like NYC, it is what it is.
Still, politics being local and geography being a factor when one is not enamored by dealing with the TSA .... it's Chicago then St Lou, with Denver & NYC being tied for third (both places Mrs Picasso will visit in a heartbeat) and close to the limits of a single day drive.
Re: Where do you prefer we hold Gryllicon 2010?
Tampa.
or somewhere in Florida. Florida has Isaac Bartram, Taktix, Pro Libertate, and, least importantly, me. Also, we have beaches, warm weather, and no income tax.
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We should hold it in Seattle. There's no income tax here, either. And you guys could see the tallest building west of the Mississippi.
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Northern FL is possible as a drive, South FL is one of the only places i'm willing to deal with the airtravel gestapo for. Tampa or Miami, love Key West but it can be frightfully expensive to get that close to Cuba. One thing for sure, it would be tragic to hold it there and not be on the ocean, like Orlando (yuk).
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We have Busch Gardens, Adventure Island, the Florida Aquarium (which we could visit, then protest its use of tax dollars), the Dali Museum, Ybor City, and a variety of nudist/ naturist clubs and some really famous nudie bars/ strip clubs.
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Come to Denver and I'll make y'all margaritas!!
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I find this to be a far more compelling argument than anything about taxes, regulations, or tourist attractions.
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Come to St. Louis. Stevo, Warren and I will make boilermakers.
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Also, St Louis has East St Louis.
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St. Louis has one of the best botanical gardens in the world, and an excellent zoo.
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I've heard good things about the Butterfly House.
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If you hold it in Seattle, you guys can experience ground zero in the microbrew industry.
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Caracas? haha! I'd love to receive all of you. Adventure and Socialism awaits.
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Of course I want NYC - it is the center of the universe, after all - but I think St. Louis would be pretty cool. I've never been there, and it's reasonably central; barely further than Chicago, to which Rachel and I drove last time. Denver & Seattle sound cool (I've been to Seattle once, and liked it very much), but they are a bit far. And I would seriously do Caracas if it were an option! A lure for you all: If we choose NYC, I might, depending on circumstances and what happens between now and then, be able to put some of you up...
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This is not true. Illinois has East St. Louis. A more unassailable moat than the mighty Mississippi you could not hope for.
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Harsh (and slimey!) words from a homebrewer for the town that hosts the Great American Beer Festival in the state that may be the cradle of the homebrewing movement!!!
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By God! St. Louis does have a mighty fine zoo!
And you should see the Arch up close once in your life, even if you don't go up to the top.
City Museum is kind of weird, eclectic place to check out. I haven't been there in years, but it's fun if your inner child hasn't died yet.
And we'll eat somewhere in the Loop, or go to the Bleeding Deacon for food and drinks or something.
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If you've never visited the Missouri Botanical Gardens, you really ought to give it a visit, especially the Climatron.
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We visited last summer, and man, is it awesome! Apparently the roof is open now, too.
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My inner child is locked in the attic.
I might, by the way, toy with the idea of going to St. Louis, having never been there before. But only if Stevo will show us the soft, seamy underbelly where respectable citizens dare not dwell after dark.
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Which reminds me -- sorry, you probably won't be able to see my apartment unless I get a chance to really clean it up and get new furniture by then.
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Get cane furniture. Always stylish.
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Well, now, a chance to see DAR in person, to measure his horns and watch him feast on the souls of young orphans, to see him contemptously cudgel low-wage workers while calling those who possess only seven advanced degrees brainless troglodytes, to witness him scoffing at haberdasher employees who do not stock the latest in straw boater fashion before mercilessly pimp-slapping them with his custom-made pauper-slapping glove!
I'm so there...
Re: Where do you prefer we hold Gryllicon 2010?
Only gentlemen are slapped with one's gloves; the masses must do with being thrashed with a cane. And I've been a member of Orphans Anonymous for years now.
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Only gentlemen? See that's the sort of information a whippersnapper aspiring to rise above his station needs. Should commoners be struck with a cane made of ash or hickory? Also, it is acceptable to thrash them harder if they have the audacity to bleed on your cane?
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Peasants can bleed?
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If I manage to attend this year, how much does that decrease the chances of everyone else showing up? I'd hate to be the only one at the Gryllicon.
Though if I am, it'll be Warren's fault.
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Only if you don't butcher them properly.
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St. Louis pot sweeteners:
Samples of my home brew, All Grain and Pumpkin Ale.
Contribution to the Ellie&Rachel transportation fund.
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Is that something like "Death & Taxes"?
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Yes, and the stains are even uglier since their blood isn't blue.
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Pretty much.
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This is such a good reason to attend Gryllicon. *drools*
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I was trying to put a nice spin on it... but you guys are too smart for me! :P
JD, I just read the article. Nothing I didn't know already but... now, I'm depressed again.
Re: Where do you prefer we hold Gryllicon 2010?
Sorry to be depressing, rana. Stay safe!
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Definitely stay safe, Rana.
Re: Where do you prefer we hold Gryllicon 2010?
So now should we have a runoff poll between the two clear leaders, St. Louis and Denver? Unless Dr. T. wants to whip up the legenday Perfect Voting System for us really quick. ;)
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Clear leaders? With such a small sample size, I hardly say clear.
Did I mention that if you have it in Seattle, you can go to the Olympic Sculpture Park and touch the artwork. Nothing screams "revolution" like touching public art. C'mon, huh? Huh?
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Seattle, for all its charms (when it's not raining) is simply too remote. If there was sufficient interest in traveling that far, I'd nominate Mr. Shultz to put us all up for a Mexican Grillcon.
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Did you even read my message? Touching the sculptures, man.
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Offer me a MexiGryllicon in midwinter, and I'll buy the ticket online tonight.
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[Notices that Mr. Shultz has been conspicuously silent on this point.]
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Small sample? We've gotten 28 votes! How many regulars do you think we actually have here at Grylliade?
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28 sounds about right.
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Let the filibustering begin.
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http://www.whitepages.com/
Wait... dammit!
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A really cool little boutique hotel recently opened up on the Loop. The Eclipse? Maybe? Anyways, it's moon themed, for all you "NASA is government largesse I can support" folks. Also, they have a pretty good comic book shop, and good places to go bowling.
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Ellie, are you saying you like the taste of my pumpkin, especially when it's pouring down your throat?
hmm... That didn't come out as nasty as I was hoping for. This years pumpkin is not sweet at all like the 07. It's got strong pumpkin flavor with a big hops finish, the spices are very much undertones.